Well if we don't change owt, nowt will change. The supporters of both clubs could/should have a representation on the organisation running the shared ground. Just trying to think of something different to go forward with The Shay. This is, after all, a ground on a site that most sports club in England would kill for.

I don’t want to be doomunger but I can only see this going one way unless a person with tons of money from us or the football side buy the Shay.
The council want rid to save money and want to make money from the sale. They will sell it to the highest bidder. Simple as that. They won’t give a sh*t whether the towns professional sports teams area accommodated. They just want a lot of cash to spend on crap. As said on another post £161k a year for a council is nothing especially what they put their money into. Two years down the line and I can see Halifax not having a professional rugby league or football club in the town. Thanks council. I’d just like them to put my wheelie bin back outside my house when it’s been emptied instead of halfway down the road. Lazy tw*#ts.

I've never been happy with the Council owning the Shay, they're a bunch of clowns. Had to deal with them through my job, being passed around between incompetent departments, each not knowing what the other ones do ..... "Oh he/she is off sick (what, again? Another runny nose is it?)" ..... blah blah blah. They should just stick to collecting the annoying council tax (should be added on to income tax anyway) and emptying the bins (which they're bad at).

Rant over. Will be a blessing to privatise the Shay, hopefully the soccer/rugby clubs can do a deal

At least this process is starting off open and transparent which non of the parties have previously been particularly inclined to be. With the new panthers board there is certainly more chance of agreements being reached between parties . Previous parties have been dug in their own trenches which enabled nothing . So maybe some sense may emerge. I remain cautiously optomistic .

Im not sure if the bolded part is true or not, by all accounts a group including members of the Fax board had been in discussions with the council regarding the purchase of the Shay for a number of months. I get the impression that this latest "leak" by the council suggesting they could be looking to offload the ground is just them feeling out what other interest there may be if they were to put it on the open market. A bit of hard ball going on.

It is my understanding that the current board have wanted the shay since they took over for obvious reasons, whilst owning the stadium outright may only score minimal points with img the knock on effect with revenue streams ie bar and food sales plus other ideas in the pipeline will be a positive in terms of improving our score in the finance department. I have had direct communication with a current non executive director and the plan is to takeover the running of the shay , the council wants / wanted the football club to do it as a joint venture but they’ve been very quiet , that of course could change. Not sure on the legalities of ‘ disposing ‘ of the shay but they certainly aren’t asking for its full value if anything, maybe this is where the lease option comes in . Like I’ve tried to say on the footy forum but to no avail the rugby club have made some very interesting appointments of late , Damien Clayton, Amy hardcastle etc, the revamp and new ownership of the shop and merchandise new sponsorship all seems positive to me , there are rumours flying around left right and centre about what would be added to the shay but they are just that so probably best mute them as it’d be egg on face time .

1000 posts on the Town forum to 20 on here for such a vital topic..Think the rugby/football Town debate is settled for now...even allowing for Listenups contributions..

@ Miserybusiness, does not really mean much 1000 v 20 posts if all the 1000 are saying the same thing, why don’t you give a breakdown of what they are saying / proposing to do about it.
The last time this was brought up, the rugby club tried to have conversations / meetings / joint talks with the football club but they were not interested in a joint venture.
If all the 1000 posts are saying that ‘Fax’ should not be there, don’t pay their way, ruin the pitch, ect, blah, blah blah, the usual diatribe and diarrhoea it will not achieve anything useful.

Silly app won’t let me quote fax in Asia but you’re predominantly right , egg chasing, frock wearing ,pitch ruining ,dying sport watching tony abbot loving **** squatters out pretty much covers 95% of what’s on there . There forum is busier than here but most rugby fans are on fax fans forum on fb which I prefer, least when someone abuses you, you know who it is .

Oh and just for a bit of ironic fun after pages and pages of abuse insinuating I was thick they accused me of hate speech because I called the main ‘ high n mighty ‘ protagonist hoddie , nobbie. Oh infairness I did say the underpaid rent was gonna be used to put a Chris anderson statue outside the east stand and the south stand would be called the tony abbot stand .

I dont think its fair to say most of the posts on theshaymen.net are mostly anti-fax. I think most Town fans know that both clubs need to work together.

I do think some are still deeply unhappy with how Fax have behaved since moving to the Shay though - including the supporters. I remember the abuse I got on here when Tony Abbott was trying to buy the Shay. My home address was posted on this forum all because I felt private ownership of the stadium was a risk to both clubs (and still do). And I hate to say it, but I was proven right with what went on to happen with TA businesses.

Again won’t let me quote bubba , what is hoddies home address? Lol

Long walk to Belgium pal..

I follow Halifax Panthers fans forum and Matt Shaw’s post regarding the Shay attracted 12 replies..unless I’m missing something,there is no real interest and passion from our supporters in social media.I take no interest in the IMG findings but didn’t that highlight our issue too ? The Shaymen.net for volume would compare favourably with championship football sides on 1700 regular game attendees as per rugby.Why such a disparity ? and as Bubba says it goes much deeper than 90% of it being people spouting the same bollx all the time.

Long walk to Belgium pal..

I wondered why he was so cocky .

Just be cause Fax fans aren’t shouting and screaming all over social media doesn’t meant we aren’t interested or care about the current situation with the Shay. If the football side hadn’t been so piggy headed in the past this situation may have been avoided.

FCHT Bosomworth looks meek and talks the talk but seems to be a silent assign and has no respect for Halifax PanthersI an 7000miles away

MOST are bitter. Especially Clive 'Hoddie' Anderson

I reckon the reality is that you maybe only have a real minority from both sides who are bothered. The rest are just happy to turn up to watch their team, I know a lot of my friends really don't give a stuff and they will either go watch the team wherever they play or if they didn't exist would just go and find something else to do on a Sunday afternoon. I blame the sport for that but it is what it is.

The Shay has been an ongoing saga for many many years. The stop/start redevelopment hasn't helped and the story of the Skircoat Road stand getting rebuilt with a hotel as part of the construction is as old as the Odsal Superdome proposal, and no further on.

The council's suggestion that disposing of The Shay will save them £161k p.a. suggests that there is a deficit to make up that whoever takes on the stadium would have to cover. We all know that councils are terrible at running things commercially so that would probably be reduced with some proper management, but could it be completely turned around? That's another question.

Ultimately, we're a part time side, with limited funding, most of which goes into the first team. Taking on the stadium would be a huge shift in business strategy, we're likely better placed than in the past, but there would be a lot of work involved and the returns wouldn't be great in the short term.

I don't know the ins and outs of FCHT, but they seem to have been steady away in the National League for a number of years now, again it would be a huge business change if they were to take the stadium on.

He has no respect for the supporters of FCHT, nevermind Halifax Panthers.

Mixing Bosomworth and Hoddie up there ?
Never been Bosomworth's biggest fan but whatever happens at the Shay he WILL ensure the football's future,im 100% certain of that.

Calderdale council had a q &a this week and the shay was brought into question, question is 13 mins in as I’m sure no one wants to listen to these waffle on for any longer than necessary. https://www.youtube.com/live/FZHbOjMsXD ... eQwFFBH2Rp

Calderdale council had a q &a this week and the shay was brought into question, question is 13 mins in as I’m sure no one wants to listen to these waffle on for any longer than necessary. https://www.youtube.com/live/FZHbOjMsXD ... eQwFFBH2Rp

Whilst the Council ‘stressed’ they would not sell to the highest bidder, they made a lot of hot air saying nothing positive moving forward. The end of the Financial year is only a couple of months away, realistically no concrete decisions can be put in place so it will drag on as before.
imo

To be fair the lady from the council who responded to the question relating to the Shay spoke coherently, and in my opinion fairly - would prefer for the ground to be taken over jointly by the 2 clubs, which should in the long term benefit both, both financially and security of tenure. Unfortunately the practicalities of getting the 2 boards to work together on the purchase, and perhaps even more challenging the ongoing running of the ground doesn't make me feel too optimistic.