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The same concerns were said when it was HKR, they were going to own us, pick the team and dictate etc etc and it didn't happen and it didn't last.

The same concerns were said when it was Salford, they were going to own us, pick the team and dictate etc etc and it didn't happen and it didn't last.

The same concerns are being said now with Cas, they are going to own us, pick the team and dictate etc etc.

Who on here actually knows what arrangements Fax have agreed or are yet to agree with Cas and yet without any knowledge it always gets interpreted the same way.

The facts are, the Fax BOD and coach, who, along with their Cas counterparts are the only ones who know what the agreements are, and yet somehow after investing time, money and all the hours of hard work etc, are at the same time signing up to something that would be detrimental to themselves and the club.

Now that is something you couldn't write, it really is.

What is actually going on?
A good topic for the next open Q & A session if there is to be one.

The whole DR arrangement should be scrapped but it must be done by everyone.

Otherwise, It's pi##ing down outside and everybody else is wearing raincoats and using brollies but I hate rain so I'm not going to mentality, when getting wet amounts to getting drowned.

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Batley coach Matt Diskin didn't seem too happy about D/R with Cas last season re his Quote in League Express he described the partnership as very one sided " As very one sided " saying the link with the Tigers didn't work when Batley needed it most.
Well we will see how it pans out one player we will not be getting is Gary Lo who will be going back to Sheffield when he is not needed

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Well we will see how it pans out one player we will not be getting is Gary Lo who will be going back to Sheffield when he is not needed'"


Unlikely that will happen because of the rules surrounding Loans. It will be more convenient for Cas to have him available to us on a weekly basis rather than him having to go out on loan for a month. I suspect he will get some game time to start with in Cas first team and they will see how he goes from there. As we have seen he is very good with ball in hand but is all over the place defensively so he will need lots of work in that area.

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They said in the press statement when he signed for Cas, there is an arrangement in place so he can play at Sheffield when he is not needed by Cas. This entire thing makes an absolute mockery of the game.

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Interesting reading this. Can't believe championship clubs are paying anything at all for the players they get via dual reg. Afraid I'm very much on the Hudd-Shay side of the argument when it comes to DR. It makes a mockery of the game as a whole and devalues the competition. SL clubs should bring back "A" teams if they so keen to give players game time. Championship clubs shouldn't be treated as junior clubs.

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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "They said in the press statement when he signed for Cas, there is an arrangement in place so he can play at Sheffield when he is not needed by Cas. This entire thing makes an absolute mockery of the game.'"
What sort of 'arrangement' maybe Griff could elaborate ?

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Quote: bentleyman "Batley coach Matt Diskin didn't seem too happy about D/R with Cas last season re his Quote in League Express he described the partnership as very one sided " As very one sided " saying the link with the Tigers didn't work when Batley needed it most.
Well we will see how it pans out one player we will not be getting is Gary Lo who will be going back to Sheffield when he is not needed'"

RM mentioned season long loans so any players involved would not be on DR terms, my concern is that RM and any deal proves true to his statement.

As GFB said Lo on attack is a threat but on defence is a different story.

Although our back line could do with an injection of pace only Rob has moved on and I would have thought we prioritise the pack regarding loan players.

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Quote: Bullseye "Interesting reading this. Can't believe championship clubs are paying anything at all for the players they get via dual reg. Afraid I'm very much on the Hudd-Shay side of the argument when it comes to DR. It makes a mockery of the game as a whole and devalues the competition. SL clubs should bring back "A" teams if they so keen to give players game time. Championship clubs shouldn't be treated as junior clubs.'"


You wont get many arguing but as a Championship club there is very little we can do about it so we either join them or we get left behind. The problem starts at the top.

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Quote: mr t hall "What sort of 'arrangement' maybe Griff could elaborate ?'"


It can only be a loan agreement. I doubt that will cut it for Cas unless they feel they have made a mistake signing him after giving him a chance in a few games. I suspect we will take some of their fringe players on season longs and then players who are semi regular first teamers we will get on a week to week basis which you would imagine would be players like Lo, Hitchcock, Douglas, then maybe we can take a look at Trueman as well.

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We are nothing but a feeder team to Cas and this arrangement will only be in the interest of Castleford. We might get the odd DR player but he could be called up by Castleford at any point.

If Garry Lo is allowed to join Sheffield on loan just shows what a cock up the system has become.

My view is we give the youngsters from the reserves a chance and do away with dual reg.

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Quote: chazzerboy "We are nothing but a feeder team to Cas and this arrangement will only be in the interest of Castleford. We might get the odd DR player but he could be called up by Castleford at any point.

If Garry Lo is allowed to join Sheffield on loan just shows what a cock up the system has become.

My view is we give the youngsters from the reserves a chance and do away with dual reg.'"


Garry Lo was part of the deal that Sheffield let him go was that they get him back on loan. Different arrangement and fax would know all this, if we are not signing many then this is the only choice.

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Quote: chazzerboy "We are nothing but a feeder team to Cas and this arrangement will only be in the interest of Castleford. We might get the odd DR player but he could be called up by Castleford at any point.

If Garry Lo is allowed to join Sheffield on loan just shows what a cock up the system has become.

My view is we give the youngsters from the reserves a chance and do away with dual reg.'"

Hear hear!

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Quote: chazzerboy "We are nothing but a feeder team to Cas and this arrangement will only be in the interest of Castleford. We might get the odd DR player but he could be called up by Castleford at any point.

My view is we give the youngsters from the reserves a chance and do away with dual reg.'"


So our coach and BOD are really going to sign up to this sort of arrangement and RM is going to say to the press he's excited about it. icon_lol.gif

So strategy is, current depleted first team and youngsters verses all the other clubs who are full time, and / or with more money and use whatever means they can to win.
My view is = Getting smashed, crowds down, money down, going down.

Again if we must bring players in then longer term loan deals to be used.

DR to be scrapped but must include every club.

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.................... just shows what a cock up the system has become.
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