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| Quote: a.n Other "7.3 Costs for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be
excluded from the Salary Cap Qualifying Costs. For the avoidance of doubt, this means
players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st in the year prior to the Salary Cap
Year in question. However, there is no credit granted against Salary Cap Qualifying Cost for
U21 players loaned out to other clubs (see 6.4.2 above).
Thats from the RFL - so all the Academy lads wont count on the cap. Have Widnes been doing it on the cheap this year with their first team?'"
Nobody really knows what each club has spent on the first team.Be nice to know,but if Widnes have spent the same or more than Fax then we have recruited badly.   |
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| Quote: a.n Other "Widnes fans seem to think that if they hadnt won the Cup last year, this years team would be different. However, as they would still have to adhere to the salary cap of £300,000 or at a push £400,000 i dont see how much difference it would make. I would assume that they would be upto the cap with there current squad, as poor as it is.'"
They do now but not sure they thought that way at start of season. I am quite sure many of them thought they would be up there, but like you say they have been poor (again). And despite the crowd issue yesterday, at ours have been going in the right direction. And thats down to getting a team on the pitch worth watching |
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[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
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| Quote: a.n Other "Widnes fans seem to think that if they hadnt won the Cup last year, this years team would be different. However, as they would still have to adhere to the salary cap of £300,000 or at a push £400,000 i dont see how much difference it would make. I would assume that they would be upto the cap with there current squad, as poor as it is.'"
This is a red Herring. Widnes may, or may not, be spending up to the cap. All it means is that Widnes have spent more on better quality, but fewer old pros and tried to give youth a chance by playing many more youngsters than the rest. Unfortunately it’s those few old pros whom have been crocked for most of the season.
If we hadn’t won the cup last season, Widnes would probably have gone down the same route as Halifax and Barrow and chocked it full of old pros, south sea islanders and Aussies.
So yes, it would have been a very different team. That kind of experience makes a difference in this league. |
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| Quote: Pepe "This is a red Herring. Widnes may, or may not, be spending up to the cap. All it means is that Widnes have spent more on better quality, but fewer old pros and tried to give youth a chance by playing many more youngsters than the rest. Unfortunately it’s those few old pros whom have been crocked for most of the season.
If we hadn’t won the cup last season, Widnes would probably have gone down the same route as Halifax and Barrow and chocked it full of old pros, south sea islanders and Aussies.
So yes, it would have been a very different team. That kind of experience makes a difference in this league.'"
But are the young players able to make the Quantum Leap to Superleague standards |
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| Quote: Pepe "This is a red Herring. Widnes may, or may not, be spending up to the cap. All it means is that Widnes have spent more on better quality, but fewer old pros and tried to give youth a chance by playing many more youngsters than the rest. Unfortunately it’s those few old pros whom have been crocked for most of the season.
If we hadn’t won the cup last season, Widnes would probably have gone down the same route as Halifax and Barrow and chocked it full of old pros, south sea islanders and Aussies.
So yes, it would have been a very different team. That kind of experience makes a difference in this league.'"
So...Widnes decided to spend most of there cap on better quality players? Which ones are they then? |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: Les West Guitar God "But are the young players able to make the Quantum Leap to Superleague standards'"
Some will, most probably won’t. We won’t be able to play as many of them in SL as we have in the Chp though. The aim would be to create the spine of the team from our academies, but this will take time. We’ve done it before and I’ve no doubt we can do it again. |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: a.n Other "So...Widnes decided to spend most of there cap on better quality players? Which ones are they then?'"
The ones that aren’t 30 and over! |
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| Quote: Pepe "The ones that aren’t 30 and over!'"
So because they arent over 30...that means that they are better quality? |
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| We've even managed to start a discussion on the VT forums about it  |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: a.n Other "So because they arent over 30...that means that they are better quality?'"
Experienced SL players who are still young enough to have a possible future back in SL, may cost a little more. |
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| Quote: Pepe "Experienced SL players who are still young enough to have a possible future back in SL, may cost a little more.'"
So who are these potential SL players you signed last year? |
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This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010
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| Quote: a.n Other "So who are these potential SL players you signed last year?'"
Thacks, Kav, Pickers, Netherton, Allen... All have time on their side still! Come 2012 how many Fax boys be good enough for 4/5 seasons in SL?
Oh and youth going well against future opponents in case we forgot to mention |
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| Quote: J20 "Thacks, Kav, Pickers, Netherton, Allen... All have time on their side still! Come 2012 how many Fax boys be good enough for 4/5 seasons in SL?
Oh and youth going well against future opponents in case we forgot to mention ![]()
Im sure that some of them were already there before the start of this season werent they?
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This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010
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| Quote: a.n Other "Im sure that some of them were already there before the start of this season werent they?'"
Bit by bit... How's that Stanley fellow getting on... The future ! |
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Club Honours[/color:2i909pde]
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Championship[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1907, 1965 Finalists: 1953, 1954, 1956, 1966
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Division One[/color:2i909pde]
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Co-opearative Championship[/color:2i909pde]
[color=#FF0000:2i909pde]Winners: 2010 [/color:2i909pde]Finalists: 2009
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Challenge Cup[/color:2i909pde]
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]John Player Special/Regal Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]War Emergence League[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1943, 1945
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Premiership Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1986
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Second Division Premiership[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1991
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire Cup[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1964 Finalists: 1906, 1908, 1942, 1980
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire League[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1921, 1950, 1953, 1954, 1956
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Eastern Divisional Championship[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1964
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Charity Shield[/color:2i909pde]
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| Quote: J20 "Thacks, Kav, Pickers, Netherton, Allen... All have time on their side still! Come 2012 how many Fax boys be good enough for 4/5 seasons in SL?
Oh and youth going well against future opponents in case we forgot to mention ![]()
Youth means nothing. Very few will ever be able to step up and be good quality super league players. Otherwise all the teams in super league would be full of them.
As for us
Gleeson, Penky, Branighan, Royston, Goddard, Beswick, Black, Nash and Worrincy for speed. They could all step up and play super league to a good level. So give it a rest, where are you in the table again with your Super League ready team?
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