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Quote: Never_Shay_Die "Oh really. 3% that's your argument?

It doesn't hold water anyway. What exactly are you basing that on? The average weekly attendances of the two clubs? What about the bigger crowds that turn up for the bigger games? What about the functions at The Shay? What about the 5-a-side pitch, the kids who play tournaments and finals on the pitch? The Staff at The Shay, both employed by the two clubs and the council? All people who have an interest in some form.

How many are regulars are there or those who might only use it once a year, for example?'"


I would class atleast once a month as regular. The Calderdale population is just over 200,000.
3% of 200,000 Now how does this compare to the library, for example, which cost 8x as much to run? How many people use that regularly or in any capacity at all? What potential does it have, especially in today's digital age? '"

The library is used by schools tohelp them learn to read and it also holds local public archives. Also the internet as well as other facilities are available at the library. It serves a far wider part of the community than what you may think. The library also hosts many help and support groups. But luddites like yourself ignore this.
Did you say WE as in the march on the Town Hall was just Halifax Town fans?
That just shows how one eyed you are as I was in that march along with hundreds of Town AND Fax fans it was a joint effort.
As for selling the Shay was illegal er wrong a senior Council Officer does actually have the power to sell the Shay but this option has not been chosen to make sure the politicians get their say which will go through the right procedures which does not mean that either FC Halifax Town or Halifax RLFC actually have to have a say as they are tenants but will be consulted anyway I am sure.

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The deal is done, Reactive Media will buy the Shay.
No doubt.

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Absolute child read my WORDS I do not worship Tony Abbott he is a businessman who has a plan for developing the Shay but as I have said before this we can only believe if he produces the goods as in he passes all the necessary due diligence if the Council go down that road which they may be forced to yet as the local population who pay Council tax may have a say as it is losing money FACT.

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Quote: SuperGeoff "The football club put money into the three new stands, the rugby didn't. The rugby also owe £52,000 in rent. That contribution would help with maintenance and put the capacity of the Skircoat and North Stand up immediately.'"


So Raise the Roof was nowt to do with Halifax RLFC then?
Check your facts.

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Hxrlfc did put money into the-building of the south stand they did buy a brick at £
5.00 each I bought 4 and you had small brass nameplate giving ur name & donation there were over 200 nameplates on show framed that used to be on the wall in the south stand bar . And that was just from fans.

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There's a few twitter accounts which are absolutely obsessed with the rugby hating. Massive confusion surrounds their perception of the Tony Abbott/Halifax RLFC entities. When you strip away the depth to their ramblings (we're talking about a head's worth of a pint of London Ale here) what's basically happened is that Halifax RLFC have put a bid in to buy The Shay. That's it. When you strip away the venom and the froth; that's the size of it. You will NEVER reason with that kind of mentality, no matter how many pages these threads create.

And the ultimate irony - whilst others congratulate Calderdale Council for their efforts leading up to this weekend the idiot Town fans are too busy slagging Tony Abbott off.

Rabid Neanderthals.

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Quote: SuperGeoff "Ah the Irony of, yes you guessed it, this being posted from behind a keyboard.'"


The point was instead of repeating over and over again the same arguments on forums like these from behind a keyboard that does nothing to solve the issues.

If it is that important surely it's better to channel the effort where it really matters, out in the open with the powers that be.

Lets all come out from behind the keyboard and ask the Council to start a petition or poll of some kind with the population of Calderdale to see what the consensus is regarding the Shay.

Being a community assett let everybody in the community decide what is best for it and them.
If some of the community can't be bothered to get involved well at least they were asked and the majority can have their say.

Again it's the Council who hold the cards not Town or Fax fans and if we really want to put pressure on the Council what better way to do it, if public opinion is strong enough against the sale then the chances of them selling it become less, but it may work the other way round.

It's not the case as you claim that Fax fans automatically think because it's TA involved it must be for the good, far from it, there are loads of questions.

What exactly will the terms of any sale be?

If it is sold is it possible to legally ensure that the Shay must stay a sporting stadium that can't be revoked or are these legal ties not really worth the paper the are written on?

If the purchaser gets in to financial trouble or has an accident of somekind at a later date what will be in place then to keep it as a sporting venue?

Etc, etc.

At the moment they are considering the options, so during that time.

We want and have a right to answers from them that are clear and address the key issues and are put in print then there can be no arguments or misunderstandings.

I'll sign on, will you?

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Quote: Fax4Life "So Raise the Roof was nowt to do with Halifax RLFC then?
Check your facts.'"

How much did the club put in?

If your rent as paid the council would be able to put that money into the Shay.

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As succinct as ever Richie.

If the numpties took a minute to breathe and stop slinging their spears and arrows at Tony Abbott, they'd probably realise that a majority of Fax fans share their concerns, they're just more dignified in their approach.

Only difference, we KNOW we are tenants at the Shay and don't expect a say in the matter. Bell ends

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Actually, I will qualify my statement. "Some Town fans". There are some who I do engage with in banter on twitter and whilst we will never agree, it is at least a bit civil.

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Quote: marillion man "What has a seabird got to do with all of this waffle ?

I've been away for a weekend of gigs all over the place, that's why i chose not to attend the RL world cup
game at the Shay yesterday. As the broadcast went live on tv & Andrew Voss began to give our town, district & stadium many varied compliments i sent out a simple text to many mates & family saying this
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Quote: SuperGeoff "How much did the club put in?

If your rent as paid the council would be able to put that money into the Shay.'"


Some of the club put money and effort in, the amounts are their business ,in fact most people don't keep account of the donations of time and money and they don't expect to be asked to explain themselves.

Over the years others actually volunteered their skills, for example laying mortar and brickwork in parts of the Shay.

Former coach John Pendlebury for one who was a brickie by trade and did voluntary building works within the ground.


The rent issue has been flogged to death.

One last attempt.

Two people rent 2 apartments in the same block and both owe a fixed amount of rent.

Both tenants have an agreed time scale to pay the landlord.

One pays their amount early in the time scale, the other pays later, as long as they pay on time within the timescale then no problem.

What arrangements each party has with the landlord is their business and they do not have to explain themselves to people who aren't even one of the tenants involved anyway.

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Quote: faxcar "Some of the club put money and effort in, the amounts are their business ,in fact most people don't keep account of the donations of time and money and they don't expect to be asked to explain themselves.

Over the years others actually volunteered their skills, for example laying mortar and brickwork in parts of the Shay.

Former coach John Pendlebury for one who was a brickie by trade and did voluntary building works within the ground.


The rent issue has been flogged to death.

One last attempt.

Two people rent 2 apartments in the same block and both owe a fixed amount of rent.

Both tenants have an agreed time scale to pay the landlord.

One pays their amount early in the time scale, the other pays later, as long as they pay on time within the timescale then no problem.

What arrangements each party has with the landlord is their business and they do not have to explain themselves to people who aren't even one of the tenants involved anyway.'"

Do you really believe we have an agreed timescale that allows us to be more than
one year in arrears ?I think we are in a mess.The coming months will show how
genuine TA is,now the shay sale is off.

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