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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"Whether Simon is out of his depth or not had little to do with tonight's game.
To put it into perspective.
Losing Gilmore after 14 minutes, being down to 11 men with 2 in the bin part of which overlapped at the same time, having Scott sent off meaning several players were out of position and a raft of other penalties going against us we spent little or no time at the right half of the field.
The winning score came on a last tackle kick on play into the in goal that Salty (who had a good game apart from this) completely missed grounding or knocking the ball dead when it was easier to do so that miss it like he did.
In the end in spite of all that we lost by just 2 points against a gutsy Dewsbury side who ran hard and tackled hard, as stated before the worst part was as a spectator there was zero entertainment factor and just a crap game to watch.'"
This is the best post in the thread.
We’ve played two games so far this year (excluding pre season which if you even count these as competitive, stop reading now).
Sheffield we looked ordinary, however the first game of the season so good to blow off the cobwebs (and we won).
Tonight was possibly the strangest game of rugby league i’ve ever watched. The atmosphere was dire, the skill levels were at an all time low and overall entertainment was dull.
So much adversity happened during that game. Simon Grix didn’t drop any balls cold tonight. He didn’t get two sin binnings and his brother sent off. Gilmore getting injured early on wasn’t his fault & Elliot Morris only played 40 mins ish which you can only assume was another injury also wasn’t his fault. You cannot expect to win that game with all of the above.
Ultimately the players are responsible for the loss tonight because it wasn’t down to tactics!
People need to give it a rest about Simon. Forget the half a season he was in charge of last season. Focus on this one. At the summer bash if we are way off then yes lets talk about it then. But until then, give the bloke a chance.
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| Quote fax_insider="fax_insider"This is the best post in the thread.
We’ve played two games so far this year (excluding pre season which if you even count these as competitive, stop reading now).
Sheffield we looked ordinary, however the first game of the season so good to blow off the cobwebs (and we won).
Tonight was possibly the strangest game of rugby league i’ve ever watched. The atmosphere was dire, the skill levels were at an all time low and overall entertainment was dull.
So much adversity happened during that game. Simon Grix didn’t drop any balls cold tonight. He didn’t get two sin binnings and his brother sent off. Gilmore getting injured early on wasn’t his fault & Elliot Morris only played 40 mins ish which you can only assume was another injury also wasn’t his fault. You cannot expect to win that game with all of the above.
Ultimately the players are responsible for the loss tonight because it wasn’t down to tactics!
People need to give it a rest about Simon. Forget the half a season he was in charge of last season. Focus on this one. At the summer bash if we are way off then yes let's talk about it then. But until then, give the bloke a chance.'"
That's deluded. We were still competitive and in contention when he took over but we deteriorated rapidly, so I personally won't forget that half season. On the pitch things were for sure unusual but apart from the ref being entirely 100% incompetent of conspiring deliberate against us; clearly discipline isn't high on the agenda or players chose not to avoid situations where they put themselves in a position to get binned or penalised. To be penalised 9-0 is sheer incompetence, even sabotage on the players part but the coach isn't blameless.
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| After reading the scoreline I was dismayed even a little saddened, then I read the courier report and the offerings above.
I have to agree with some points and disagree with others.
Why Simon Grid was the only name in the frame for coach we may never find out, yes he is raw at coaching a fact that cannot be argued with. Whatever RM did or did not do to hasten his departure will again be shrouded in clouds, it certainly seems his major faults were timings and management. Not to be ready until a quarter of the season was over took some believing.
As for last night S G is not responsible for the penalty count against or the actions of players once the cross the Whiteline, he can try and coach it into them every minute of every session, but once they take the field he is powerless.
What does he do drop players and play lesser said players ? You would all moan at that !
Not the best start but 2 games into the long season give them a chance.
If you think you can do better offer your services to the club, not your mates in the pub!
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| Going to be a long season. Alarm bells should of ran after we struggled to run in a high score against hull reserves.
No ideas, one man rugby, indiscipline no cover for injured player.
Either use the dual reg or don't bother having it we needed a , yesterday and giants have a decent one who is not getting game time.
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| defence was good first half. keeping Dewsbury out and not scoring a try was good. defence for two of Dewsbury tries second half poor. try on last play was poor defending, then try on last play kick again terrible.
ref was poor, the head shots were not acted on yet other things were, as for the Dewsbury player complaining to ref near end that morrell had punched him in stomach as ran back for drop out when he had brushed hand against his stomach. players getting as bad as football in claiming fouls.
sykes seemed to ref the game all night.
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| The only positive I can see from that game is that after that totally shambolic first half we were still in with a shot to win the game near the end. The downside of that is we were in with a chance of winning a game against a team that will finish in the bottom 4 come the end of the season. Not exactly inspiring.
By the time Marshall left we already had a discipline problem and one of my big hopes for this season is that it would be sorted out. On evidence against Sheffield and against Dewsbury it is nowhere near sorted out and the easy option is to blame the ref. Their coach could be heard from the stand shouting that Dewsbury needed to just keep turning up as Halifax would concede penalties and we certainly did not disappoint.
Loing to Dewsbury means we now have to pick up wins against the likely top 4 to be in with any shout of sneaking in to the top 5 and in only playing about 20 minutes of decent rugby all season that is never going to happen. Sad to say but this season should be about getting rid of the dead wood we are carrying and trying to get a plan in place for next season as we are very close to not only slipping away from the top 5 but close to slipping in to the Dewsbury, Batley, and Swinton group of just making up the numbers year in year out.
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| Regarding the result we lost this game by 2 points having out scored the opposition 3 tries to 2 in spite of all that went on.
It was a real negative eye opener, surprisingly so to see us drop to that level of performance.
Short term it will be tough to avoid being overly critical and negative.
Longer term if it continues it will tough to accept and realize that we are at best a middle to bottom half of the table club and team.
Still early doors yet, however.
Thank goodness it's only a game that's what say.
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| Middle of the table will be quite an achievement. Only two games gone, I know, but if you can't see what's in front of you then you are blind.
The amateurism of the Board is all too transparent. As long as Croad (who is responsible for this coach and team but hides outside the board) and Turner (who looks lie he is happy to be the Giants bitch) fail to recognise they need some professional and skilled help then the club will continue to fester and stagnate. Realistically challenging for promotion will only come after this mob are relegated.
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| At least we won the 2nd half!
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| Quote Dbvada="Dbvada"Middle of the table will be quite an achievement. Only two games gone, I know, but if you can't see what's in front of you then you are blind.
The amateurism of the Board is all too transparent. As long as Croad (who is responsible for this coach and team but hides outside the board) and Turner (who looks lie he is happy to be the Giants bitch) fail to recognise they need some professional and skilled help then the club will continue to fester and stagnate. Realistically challenging for promotion will only come after this mob are relegated.'"
No it won't. We need a money man and getting a group of people to put a bit of money in is not the answer and we would be in a very similar position. It is going to take a lot of money for us to compete with the top teams, if there were anyone in the area with that sort of money and willing to put it in they would have already shown themselves. Blaming that performance on the board is clutching at straws.
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| I have to say - I was going into this season not too interested. The new board and band of volunteers are industrious but I feel a big disconnect as I’m not a regular. To echo other comments, they need some experience and a sound plan for the club that is more professionally communicated. And woe betide if you question the running and output of the club on social media.
I was waiting for performances and results to draw me in as I’m not sure about Grix - Marshall’s we’re big shoes to fill and it needed someone who knew what they were doing to improve performances. Sadly. It’s going to be a very long season and I’m none too fussed at the moment
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