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| Quote: catalanglais "Hello Halifax fans.I thought the ref favoured you actually,that Johnson should have been sent off and that you were offside just as often as us. With regard to the rugby the first half was even but you,rather like us ,lacked the skill and pace to take your chances-certainly we would have been well behind a top 8 team by half time. Thereafter we ground you down and dominated possession ,and you looked very tired at the end.Although our first try was jammy we scored 3 good ones whereas you never really looked as if you would score We may well see you again next year . I enjoyed the pub and my first visit to Halifax for 18 years.'"
Le trios de pigeons ?
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| Think yesterday confirmed concerns for me personally.
as much as i think Jonno is brilliant individually, you can see that our left side is completely disjointed. A half back that can move that side better would give us a whole new weapon & we wouldnt have to grubber it behind the defence every single time. and barber is not a centre imo. he has great hands but is simply too big & too slow for me.
marshalls comments regarding 'a couple of signings' worries me a little (we didnt change the team much a couple of years ago and we were left wanting the following year). we do have a good core for a solid team but again imo, we need a winger, centre, hooker and half back to actually progress.
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| Need more than two.Squad needs strengthening but not extending 5 in/out IMO.
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| Regarding signings there are a few things to consider.
Depends on who is staying.
Depends on the quality of who is coming.
Depends on how many can step up from the reserves.
Dare I say it, backed up by oh DR.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "pretty bad spear tackle that probably warranted red rather than just 10 minutes in the bin.
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Just seen a still of the spear tackle. Totally unacceptable for Kendall not to award a red card for that IMO. I can't comment on his overall performance as i have not seen other incidents or the full game. But i can see understand your frustrations with the spear. I'm frustrated seeing it as a few weeks ago against Swinton Johnny Campbell was red carded for going above the horizontal slightly. As a fan, you normally know when your player does a red card offence. We always say "well a yellow would have been sufficient" but we normally know when it's a red and just hope the ref pulls out a yellow. At no point did i think Campbell's was worthy of a red, it was slightly above the horizontal and the player landed on his shoulder. When i've seen just penalties and yellows awarded for players in vertical positions and landing on their head and i've seen that, it just makes my blood boil over Campbell's red all over again. The refs don't help themselves sometimes.
The refs are copping abuse form all sides at the moment (some warranted, some just the usual fan bias) but when they fail to protect players from thuggery (as it sounds like may be the case here) then they need to be held to account for it.
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Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt.
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| Quote: mr t hall "Only highlight of second half,Johno throwing punches at someone twice his size.Think that's why he got the hitman award.'"
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| other than getting rid of personal frustrations there is little point bagging the RFL or the ref . What the game did show up are our weaker areas where we need to strengthen. Not being disrespectful to our players but when the opposition look at our team sheet I don't think they will remotely fear our attack all across the back line. It's solid but we need a cutting edge.That's where the bar needs to go up with some key additions. I think we need to hold on the the word "ambition " in who we sign and that does not necessarily mean expensive but selective.
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| Quote: interceptor "other than getting rid of personal frustrations there is little point bagging the RFL or the ref . What the game did show up are our weaker areas where we need to strengthen. Not being disrespectful to our players but when the opposition look at our team sheet I don't think they will remotely fear our attack all across the back line. It's solid but we need a cutting edge.That's where the bar needs to go up with some key additions. I think we need to hold on the the word "ambition " in who we sign and that does not necessarily mean expensive but selective.'"
I'd start with 2 wingers, a centre who can draw a man and a half back. Much as I admire the efforts of those currently in the Blue and White we are no further forward than last year, a solid championship team with no real prospect of playing at any other level than our current one. I accept that our finances probably dictate to a very large extent and will continue to support, but in the full knowledge that we're going nowhere
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| To be fair we are further forward than last year and exceeded all my expectations.With a bit more funding this year and the right recruitment we could give it a right go next year.Time to be ruthless though now,no sentiment contracts.
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| The financial position of the club is dire, with debts that have been run up by the existing BOD's (plus Mr Croad) business plan. If it where not for Mr Steele increasing his cash donations the club would have run out of cash and gone into admin. Despite his generosity I was told on Sunday that the Club still has potential six figure deficit which will use up a big chunk of the 2017 prize money - provided the club can juggle the payments out. This is one reason that Moore is trying to recruit new Board members, to help fund the Club and give it some credibility with creditors.
This is why Richard is being cautious and wants DR, despite everything he will probably have only roughly the same sum to spend on the squad next year, making recruitment of new quality players very difficult.
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| About time my Euromillions came in..sounds like it's a bloody good job we got the 4.
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| Bird to answer a grade d for the throw.Clear evidence it should have been red.
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| Quote: Dbvada "The financial position of the club is dire, with debts that have been run up by the existing BOD's (plus Mr Croad) business plan. If it where not for Mr Steele increasing his cash donations the club would have run out of cash and gone into admin. Despite his generosity I was told on Sunday that the Club still has potential six figure deficit which will use up a big chunk of the 2017 prize money - provided the club can juggle the payments out. This is one reason that Moore is trying to recruit new Board members, to help fund the Club and give it some credibility with creditors.
This is why Richard is being cautious and wants DR, despite everything he will probably have only roughly the same sum to spend on the squad next year, making recruitment of new quality players very difficult.'"
I bet you're gutted that we got into the top 4 then.
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| Quote: catalanglais "Hello Halifax fans.I thought the ref favoured you actually,that Johnson should have been sent off and that you were offside just as often as us. With regard to the rugby the first half was even but you,rather like us ,lacked the skill and pace to take your chances-certainly we would have been well behind a top 8 team by half time. Thereafter we ground you down and dominated possession ,and you looked very tired at the end.Although our first try was jammy we scored 3 good ones whereas you never really looked as if you would score We may well see you again next year . I enjoyed the pub and my first visit to Halifax for 18 years.'"
Sorry, but the RFL disciplinary clearly disagree, at least from a serious offence perspective. The spat between Johnston and Duport has resulted in no charges, although possibly Ben is lucky that his punch missed. He is on a charge for a grade A reactionary trip in the first half (I missed that one) but it looks like Bird (if he stays with you) won't be playing again for you this season (and maybe the start of the next).
All teams are offside most of the time and test the referees to see what they can get away with. Where the ref missed loads yesterday was where the Catalans players were consistently not square at the ptb. You also took the definition of "flat pass" to a new dimension, and the Fax fans got bored of calling "forward pass" as the ref was clearly happy with a couple of feet or so forward being Ok.
Glad you enjoyed the trip, and as others have said, you are correct that we lacked penetration near your line. I'm not sure any of your tries were "jammy", albeit one of them should have been called "held" well before the offload, and our centre should have held on to the ball for one of the others.
Based on what I've seen so far in the 8's, you'll have an opportunity for another trip to Halifax next season. We all see games in a biased fashion, although sometimes an opportunity to watch a game back afterwards does show things a little differently. The ref was awful yesterday, and allowed far too much to go unpunished. You'd normally expect the lower league team to resort to "physical" tactics, but it was Catalans that seemed to feel the need to be "tough" rather than play good rugby. Although your players seemed to think it funny that the Fax fans were chanting that "you're **** and you know you are" at 24-0, it was a well made point - we're not good enough to make SL, but you're not good enough to stay in it.
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| Quote: faxlad66 "I bet you're gutted that we got into the top 4 then.'"
Was I mistaken but wasn't Dbvada's last post telling people to get behind the club yet this post here he is with more scaremongering. I get the feeling it's someone who is maybe a little jealous that he never ended up on the board afterall he does sound very bitter.
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