For build pressure see - get a stand off with a clever kicking game so we don't have to run the ball all the time

how many 40/20s did holroyd kick when he was here, how many have we kicked this season.?

Holroyd was a great goal kicker but i think this season our kicking has been better overall we just dont do it enough,we persist with chips over the top too much. i will admit holroyds attacking kicks were much better but as for his place kicking was it that much better.

He wasn't as good as some make out.

It's not about Holdroyd, it's about varying how you play and giving people a breather whilst making it hard for teams to get out of their own half. Not every kick should be a 40-20 but if the team know a good kick is coming they will hold the ball better, a kick follows and the oppostion receive the ball deeper in their own half, making their job harder. That's how you build pressure, not by running the ball like maniacs, forcing passes and dropping the ball in your own half, giving opposition penalties and field postition

I support and love both clubs babe. while reading these forums with interest im sorry i cant help amusing myself the odd time with comments, its only a rugby forum remember, try not to take it too seriously lifes too short

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You're a crap troll. Hellfire.

im not hellfire, but i have admitted i find him amusing!

upthefax wasnt me either, if you look i have never slagged off any staff

winding up widnes fans i dont consider too much an offence either

im a avid fan, and my uncle whos house i am staying at in australia for a while is in the fax hall of fame! mr c.renilson

If you watch last seasons trys dvd 90% of the trys we scored holly contributed to through his passes or his kicks. It shows how important a general on the field is someone to grab the game by the scruff of the neck when things are going wrong. Think how much more dangerous we would of been this season with a out and out stand off on the field i reckon we would be out of site at the top now.

All you ever write on those comment boards is "Comment Reported Unsuitable By User".

This lad seems fine to me. The refs in our league are useless. And he hasn't ever slagged off the staff or players at fax without some sort of just cause and rational.

Some people on here take everything far too seriously.

he's a Knob and you know it

My mate Bingo says he is a good lad as well.

He might be a good lad but blaming the referee for your loss against us is like blaming the sun for being too hot when your unwatered plants die.

You couldn't keep your mouth's shut, the referee is absolutely within his rights to punish you for that. You dropped the ball so often in that second half you couldn't have come away with the points. Your forwards were lacking concentration and your backs lacking ideas.

None of the above is the fault of the referee. He made a few errors, all RL refs do. I can think of a few offences you caused we were ounished for, like the odd knock on which was given as a ball rip. But you got WHACKED.

We lost cos we were out played in every department....end of! Nothing to do with the Ref.

A ref does not lose a game 42 - 16

and to be fair regarless of the standard a ref is as good indiferant or good for both teams - to suggest otherwise is idiotic!

He is human "i think" no we were were outplayed on Friday - need to get back to winning ways and find some form for the run in

Just remind me who is top top top of the leauge

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