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I just can't understand the whole system, and i'm sure there are many like me. I mean one of the best games I ever watched was Wakey Vs Cas in a relegation battle (who ever wins stays up). And it was a belting game of rugby. Theres none of that anymore, yes it's not a great boost to finish bottom but players aren't going to fight for the game like they were. Wrecking the sport they are. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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IMHO it is just another example of the RFL blindly following the NRL example and chanting the mantra all "Aussie ideas are best".

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Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "I THINK THAT JOHN KEAR HAS JUST SIGNED A NEW CONTRACT WITH WAKEY ASWELL.

HE WONT BE HAPPY AT ALL IF ITS A WAKEY WIDNES SWAP!!!

I WOULD FEEL FOR KEAR ASWELL AS I RESPECT HIM MASSIVLEY'"


He will end up as coach at Widnes. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Electricityscape "I just can't understand the whole system, and i'm sure there are many like me. I mean one of the best games I ever watched was Wakey Vs Cas in a relegation battle (who ever wins stays up). And it was a belting game of rugby. Theres none of that anymore, yes it's not a great boost to finish bottom but players aren't going to fight for the game like they were. Wrecking the sport they are.

I AGREE, WHAT A GAME, THATS WHY WE GO TO WATCH RUGBY...2 TEAMS GIVING 100% TO WIN, AT THE END OF THIS SEASON IN SUPER LEAGUE AT THE BOTTOM , TEAMS WITH NOTHING TO PLAY FOR, ARE THEY GOING TO BE GIVING 100%??

DOUBT IT, I WOULDNT,

"IM SIGNED ON FOR NEXT YEAR ANYWAY, AND WERE NOT GOING TO GET RELEGATED"

ITS A JOKE,

I GO HOME AND AWAY REGARDLESS TO WATCH FAX, AND WAS INTRODUCED INTO THE GAME AT 3 YEARS OLD, WHO TOOK ME TO THOSE GAMES UP AT THRUM HALL?

MY PARENTS, AND THEIR FRIENDS, WHO ALL TRAVELLED HOME AND AWAY NONE OF WHOLM GO DOWN THE SHAY NOW....WHY I ASK THEM?

BECAUSE THE SPORTS A JOKE IS THEIR ANSWER, AND THEIR NOT ON THIER OWN!!

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Quote: Electricityscape "I just can't understand the whole system, and i'm sure there are many like me. I mean one of the best games I ever watched was Wakey Vs Cas in a relegation battle (who ever wins stays up). And it was a belting game of rugby. Theres none of that anymore, yes it's not a great boost to finish bottom but players aren't going to fight for the game like they were. Wrecking the sport they are.
I also remember the moaning that went on after that match because there was too much onus on the bottom of the table when, apparently, 3rd party interest should have been concentrated at the top. Madness.

And just because licensing works (?) in Aus doesn't mean it will here.

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Quote: The Dors "I also remember the moaning that went on after that match because there was too much onus on the bottom of the table when, apparently, 3rd party interest should have been concentrated at the top. Madness.

And just because licensing works (?) in Aus doesn't mean it will here.'"




It should work over in Oz, they offload their surplus over here and to all corners of the RU world !!!!

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put yourself in lewis's boots (don't give a poop about RL just boosting mi pension up and long may it last, RL will be here longer than i will be destroying the lower leagues because i'm a puppet for sky)
[sizeWOULD YOU IF YOU DIDN'T GIVE A HOOT!

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Quote: Electricityscape "I just can't understand the whole system, and i'm sure there are many like me. I mean one of the best games I ever watched was Wakey Vs Cas in a relegation battle (who ever wins stays up). And it was a belting game of rugby. Theres none of that anymore, yes it's not a great boost to finish bottom but players aren't going to fight for the game like they were. Wrecking the sport they are.
Give yourself some credit here, you perfectly understand the system... you see it as we all do for what it really is. It's a means for the RFL to cherry pick who they want in their big league. Nothing more and nothing less.

What you don't get is the bullcrap that is spouted by those in favour of the system about youth development, club financing etc etc.

There were a number of much more subtle measures that could have been implemented to handle these things before such a drastic move of removing promotion and relegation. None of it would interest the RFL as it wouldn't get them what they want.

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Quote: jeffvickers "If Lewis & Wood have their way, in the next round after 2012 of franchises, Super League will consist of

Wigan
Leeds
Warrington
Perpignan
Toulouse
Edinburgh
Wales
Newcastle-Gateshead
London
Leeds
Bradford
St Helens
Hull
Hull KR

A breakaway is inevitable, and a must for the heartlands to survive.

Halifax, Fev, Leigh & Barrow will NEVER get a chance unless promotion/relegation is restored.
We'll see Widnes, Salford, Wakey & Cas probably making way for the expansionists unless any of the expansion clubs go bust.'"



TWO Leeds sides in there? Can't see Hunslet getting the nod. icon_smile.gif

No Manchester mentioned. I feel that Sky and the RFL will do everything in their power to get a representative from the twin cities of Manchester / Salford. Maybe, as a condition of the grant of a licence, they might demand that Salford rename themselves to reflect that they represent (?) the larger conurbation.

I agree that certain clubs, including the ones you mentioned, will never get the leg up into SL unless and until P&R is restored, although I don't honestly think that a breakaway is the answer for a number of reasons.

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Loving the hypocrisy of some.:



Quote: faxfox "although I don't honestly think that a breakaway is the answer for a number of reasons.'"


I agree. What it needs is the clubs outside of SL collectively making noises about the ridiculous franchise system. It seems as though the clubs just accepted it with little or no opposition.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: Bubba "I agree. What it needs is the clubs outside of SL collectively making noises about the ridiculous franchise system. It seems as though the clubs just accepted it with little or no opposition.'"


why do they accept it though?.
could it be that the rfl and people like hetherington keep dangling another carrot infront of the directors of our clubs.

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Franchise D Day cant come soon enough for me, another chance to highlight what a bunch of imbeciles run the game, I hope they kick out a Club and refuse Widnes, this should cause a real stink and find then someone might really start challenging this process and showing it for the absolutely atrocious undermining of the sports integrity.

Fans should definitely start making their feelings known by protest, Sky cameras, Grand Finals etc.

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Funny thing is after being in the very nice stadium at Bramhall Lane today (far too big for the Eagles come on) based on the RFL's obsession with stadiums this means that Sheffield Eagles must now have the best stadium in RL so should be shoe horn into SL as they are an 'expansion' club are they not?

Oh but it didn't work out last time they were in SL did it even after winning the Challenge Cup in 1998?
But thats confined to the history books where the RFL never look its all in the past so maybe they will let them back in???

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Im definitely of the camp that this isnt a Halifax thing, this isnt about Widnes, Wakefield, Castleford, Crusaders or Catalans. This is about Rugby League having integrity and dignity as a sport, if your good enough, you go up, if you finish bottom you go down...
Wood and Lewis are complete and utter berks for going away from this, when they move on, someone will have to clear up their mess, and try to figure out just how much money we wasted on it, were not big enough to carry a European League, and were not big enough to be a truly national game, this should have been built up over decades from bottom up, not top down you absolute cretins (Wood and Lewis) How dare they continue to treat Rugby fans with such continued contempt.
If clubs mismanage their own finances (Which Franchising wont effect or solve in reality) then thats their perogative.
The 'Give us back our game' campaign should start herewith.

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Quote: justthebasicfax "Im definitely of the camp that this isnt a Halifax thing, this isnt about Widnes, Wakefield, Castleford, Crusaders or Catalans. This is about Rugby League having integrity and dignity as a sport, if your good enough, you go up, if you finish bottom you go down...
Wood and Lewis are complete and utter berks for going away from this, when they move on, someone will have to clear up their mess, and try to figure out just how much money we wasted on it, were not big enough to carry a European League, and were not big enough to be a truly national game, this should have been built up over decades from bottom up, not top down you absolute cretins (Wood and Lewis) How dare they continue to treat Rugby fans with such continued contempt.
If clubs mismanage their own finances (Which Franchising wont effect or solve in reality) then thats their perogative.
The 'Give us back our game' campaign should start herewith.'"


You are right the game is not big enough look at the crowd for the Leeds v Saints CC semi final only 15K for two of the biggest clubs in the game and a real 50/50 game which it was as it turned out and a very good one too.
No wonder they had the cameras facing the stands that were full not the empty one!!!

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