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It was borderline to be fair and my initial thought from my seat in the East Stand was he was outside the 40.

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Sorry guys, but I called 40-20 as it left his foot. I was sat mid East Stand and I was pretty convinced myself.

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That's not what I said. I asked why every team except Halifax go for the 40/20 at the Shay.

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Because every visiting team is on the front foot come 4th or 5th tackle. Wheras we have abandoned going forwards and started going lateral.

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "Think what 'Fax are missing is that you have to earn the right to play off the cuff and do the hardwork beforehand to build a platform to create space in the backs.'"


spot on.

Its glarignly obvious, the question is can MC adapt his squad?

Lets see?

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Quote: Tortured Soul "That's not what I said. I asked why every team except Halifax go for the 40/20 at the Shay.'"




I don't think it's a matter of just at the Shay, it's a tactic that's there for every team to utilise, but obviously, you can't use it from every part of the field where a tackle takes place.
Two things though, the line should be able to read a player like Rooney or even hear the call go out & attack his kick.
Secondly, the wingers & full back could be better placed to defend the kick.

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It's basic defence, MM. The wingers and full back should be watching for that type of kick, and it should be instinctive as to positioning. They've played the game for long enough. Surely, by now some things just come naturally, or are they coached out of them?

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Quote: ThrumHall "Fair play to Nixon then. He still got up and played the ball before being helped off.'"


He could have hopped the length of the pitch and scored. Our lot still wouldn't have stopped him. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Tortured Soul "It's basic defence, MM. The wingers and full back should be watching for that type of kick, and it should be instinctive as to positioning. They've played the game for long enough. Surely, by now some things just come naturally, or are they coached out of them?'"

You can't just drop both wingers back to defend a kick on a whim, with the full back & two markers that leaves eight defending what would be a frail line to run ball in hand.
The kick isn't bound to make it's target either so it's be a gamble dropping back, all I'm saying is smarten up, that's what Rooney did, play smart.

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Quote: Fax Machine "He could have hopped the length of the pitch and scored. Our lot still wouldn't have stopped him.


Cruel FM but probably correct

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Quote: marillion man "You can't just drop both wingers back to defend a kick on a whim, with the full back & two markers that leaves eight defending what would be a frail line to run ball in hand.
The kick isn't bound to make it's target either so it's be a gamble dropping back, all I'm saying is smarten up, that's what Rooney did, play smart.'"


Where did I say drop both wingers back? Don't misquote me, please. I said it should be instinctive in a player with regards to positioning. Most teams just have one winger and the full back drop back to cover a ick these days.

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I'd say with the shocking defence going down in the centres atm the wingers would be a bit unsure whether to drop back too far anticipating a kick or to stay up to defend the line if they run it cus from what ive seen teams have breezed through the centres. The positional sense of the whole team has looked poor.

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "Obviously a player of Royston's quality is a huge loss but from what I've seen there doesn't seem to be anywhere near the same threat from a Black-Holroyd partnership at half back as there was Branighan-Black, and arguably that's a much more vital cog in a side.'"

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Quote: Tortured Soul "Where did I say drop both wingers back? Don't misquote me, please. I said it should be instinctive in a player with regards to positioning. Most teams just have one winger and the full back drop back to cover a ick these days.'"




I didn't mis-quote you, I was offering an explanation.

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Quote: ThrumHall "Fair play to Nixon then. He still got up and played the ball before being helped off.'"

He did the same when he shattered his arm against Leigh (on Sky) last season - he got up, played the ball and ran straight down the tunnel. He had a double compound fracture of his arm !

Gutted for him again. He was just getting his confidence back. It's a tough sport.

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