FWIW Saints are only -38 against us. I cant see them resting players in a semi final so thats basically free money.

All depends on the mental attitude of the team tomorrow . I fear a batley type approach so lets hope they get a good old fashioned rollocking before they get on the coach to wind them up a bit and get their heads on

An unacceptable result.

Not unexpected, could be a long cold Summer.

Yes charlie certainly knows more than bfg . Fancy a job at fax ? There may be a vacancy coming soon at this rate

Stacked it. No late surge is going to save us now. Less funding for next year, less revenue. Losing team. Great time to be a fax fan!

Good idea getting rid of Marshall

Jensen, the way Fax have been playing was the reason I tipped Barrow,and looking at your next few fixtures Bradford and Toronto away , and Fev and Widnes at the Shay it doesn’t look good,after that what should be a win at Dews it’s realistic your next win could be at home to Rochdale on 1st Sept.
I’m not sure about the remedy,I think Grix as Coach was a mistake, maybe RM should have been given till the end of the season,it wouldn’t have mattered keeping him on.
The Bradford fans are saying your game at Bradford next week , will hopefully kick start their season, so they will be up the game.
The silver ligning for Fax will be the Cup receipts hope make a few quid for players next year, for me your a League season is over.

BFG knew.

Seriously though its probably time now to offload some players if possible and try and save some cash for next season and try and blood some of the younger lads in the hope that 1 or 2 of them could add something next year. Luckily for us we will make more from the cup run than we would have for making the top 5 so we should be able to start planning for next season very early.

Well, this is a new, new low. That as unacceptable. I know the Championship is more competitive but not across the board, Barrow have won twice all year and routinely ship points. Only time will tell with Grix but I do not understand the rational in his appointment, let alone a near three year contract. He was / is part of the playing group that has been for the most part underperforming this year and it is pretty evident that as of now he doesn't have the capabilities to change the playing culture. 2 wins against Bradford who are as bad as us is just a mask. As I have said before, if Grix was going to be appointed, he needed an experienced assistant / football director but he has neither. Playing experience and coaching experience are vastly different and he needs to learn his craft as an assistant first for several seasons but he is for all intents and purposes learning on the job in a results based environment. Maybe its too early to judge his progress right now but it seems as though we are just as inconsistent, making the same errors and being as defensively fragile as ever. Perhaps I should judge the guy when he has had a chance to build his own team and make the changes to the squad he deems necessary but for me, the team we have is more than good enough.

John Kear sounds as frustrated at Bradford over their inconsistency and he is a proven good coach. Maybe the Grix appointment was a bit too quick? Maybe he just needs more time to stamp his own authority and way of working on the players and bring in his own men?

We won't be able to fairly judge SG until well into next season. I would personally have brought a coach in with no Fax connections and not a forward. As for yesterday, I was always taught That if you can't say owt good about anybody/anything it's better to say nowt......

Agreeing with you there. An objective coaching view would have been beneficial, especially after transitioning from a guy who spent nearly 5 years here.

Did warn about the merits of a long contract for this appointment....if yesterday's debacle was the only response SG could get from an unacceptable performance the week before,then the motivational aspect of his coaching is clearly lacking already.

Good Morning Pete, I was taught exactly the same as yer last sentence , but sometimes things have to be said.
I don’t know about Fax and the game yesterday, but maybe you do Barrow a bit of an injustice, they are always a tough team to beat at home,last season they beat Leigh at Barrow,and for me that defeat cost us dearly .
Fax have been struggling for a while now, you have beaten a poor Bradford side twice,Bradford for me are very similar to Fax at the moment, a not very mobile side,the last 20 yesterday we took them apart.Your game with them on Sunday will be very interesting,talking to Bradford fans after the game, they still feel the top 5 is within their reach , but a win against Fax is a MUST, I haven’t seen their remaking fixtures, but for Fax things look bleak.I hope you had a good week end in Cumbria otherwise.