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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.: |
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| Quote: wereutherein1987? "2 things concern me about why Leigh are where thay are;
1. Why did they allow themselves to exceed a salary cap knowing they might have restricted finances
2. why did they base their financial plans on achieving a GF spot.
I hope they pull through and sure they will but something smacks of poor management to me, surely clubs have budgets to work to that are designed to keep them solvent?'"
What hapened at Leigh to be fair could happen at any number of clubs, as most clubs have Directors that put money in.But when that person goes bust and cannot carry on doing it then things start to go pear shaped. We all know that what should happen is you cut your cloth according to what`s coming in but if someone offers you a top up every month which could pay for a first class coach and a few players you would not have been able to afford who would say no? Especialy when fans are expecting results on the field and have Super League aspirations.Aurther Thomas went bust because someone else did who owed him a great deal of money he had no alternative but to leave. Like a good many clubs have they will learn a lesson from this and cut the budget on players and coaches ,well till the next "White Knight" at least.
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| Quote: wereutherein1987? "2 things concern me about why Leigh are where thay are;
1. Why did they allow themselves to exceed a salary cap knowing they might have restricted finances - the salary cap points deduction was a technicality we could have had reduced to a fine b ut we didn't have the money. Our player budget this year is less than last, which was less than the year before]
2. why did they base their financial plans on achieving a GF spot. - the financial plans were non existent Arthur ran the show how he wanted and paid for the privilege, when he went we had poor revenue streams as a result of the stranglehold the stadium company had on income
I hope they pull through and sure they will but something smacks of poor management to me, surely clubs have budgets to work to that are designed to keep them solvent?'"
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| Quote: wereutherein1987? "2 things concern me about why Leigh are where thay are;
1. Why did they allow themselves to exceed a salary cap knowing they might have restricted finances - the salary cap points deduction was a technicality we could have had reduced to a fine b ut we didn't have the money. Our player budget this year is less than last, which was less than the year before]
2. why did they base their financial plans on achieving a GF spot. - the financial plans were non existent Arthur ran the show how he wanted and paid for the privilege, when he went we had poor revenue streams as a result of the stranglehold the stadium company had on income
I hope they pull through and sure they will but something smacks of poor management to me, surely clubs have budgets to work to that are designed to keep them solvent?'"
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| Tough times at Leigh. Hope everything works out for them. On a relative point do other people think it's crazy that we have just 11 scheduled home games next season. It must be the lowest in any other uk team sport.
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| Wonder if you'd be allowed to go under if you were an expansion club? We're all thinking it, so I said it.
I do hope Leigh can resolve their problems and manage to stay in this league. We've had some cracking games between our clubs and some great banter. Long may it continue.
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47584_1568870225.jpeg fax untill i die:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47584.jpeg |
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| Good luck Leigh, don't want to see any of the proper rugby league teams go under.
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| Quote: rickster "Tough times at Leigh. Hope everything works out for them. On a relative point do other people think it's crazy that we have just 11 scheduled home games next season. It must be the lowest in any other uk team sport.'"
Along with NRC & challenge cup there will be a few more, however with gates dropping and clubs with lower supporters coming in the bigger clubs, fax, fev, Leigh will feel it the most on the gates whilst the poorer followed clubs will benefit much more.
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46669_1419854573.jpg And Behold, a pale horse. And on his back his name was death.
The weekend starts on a Monday.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46669.jpg |
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| Unfortunately faxhali that 11 games includes league and NRC matches. Yes we might have 1 or 2 cc games but it's still too few
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| Really sorry that leigh have their financial problems and hope that they manage to overcome them BUT
Isnt the idea of having a millionaire backer one of the things the RFL said we needed to be a better prospect for Super League? Arthur Thomas has put loads into Leigh helping them employ some first class talent but once he has had to leave, the whole pack of cards falls down. . it's the same at Crusaders Harlequins, Barrow etc etc without even thinking about Halifax Rugby Union Club and what the death of David Brook did to them
and yet the RFL prefer a money man behind a club, to any Club that runs on its turnover and manages its budgets
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| That's the whole RFL policy though. Just think what would happen is Sky pulled the plug. Ten SL clubs would go to the wall in an instant. Players would have to go part time and the best talent would walk over to RU.
But that isn't going to happen. Is it?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: neilgreenwood "Good luck Leigh, don't want to see any of the proper rugby league teams go under.'"
Or any not proper teams even
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: adam "Really sorry that leigh have their financial problems and hope that they manage to overcome them BUT
Isnt the idea of having a millionaire backer one of the things the RFL said we needed to be a better prospect for Super League? Arthur Thomas has put loads into Leigh helping them employ some first class talent but once he has had to leave, the whole pack of cards falls down. . it's the same at Crusaders Harlequins, Barrow etc etc without even thinking about Halifax Rugby Union Club and what the death of David Brook did to them
and yet the RFL prefer a money man behind a club, to any Club that runs on its turnover and manages its budgets'"
Yes it stinks doesn't it Adam , the RFL seem to want their cake and eat it when it comes to us Championship clubs , yet the current SL tenants seem immune to the same rules
We at Leigh have a fantastic facility , but one that is strangling us , we are a town in probably the worst location possible , with no big industry , no large employers owned by local people , what industry we do have is struggling to survive
What is our future ? , do we have a future ? , who knows , we' ll try , are our problems down to the RFL ? , no , do their policys help us ? , probably not , do they want or need us ? , yes , they do , the Championships are rapidly becoming what we all said they were a couple of months ago , The Forgotten Leagues , take away another supposedly biggish club and it really is close to disappearing , so hopefully we can survive , and somehow with the co operation and collective help of the other main players outside SL we can all have a future
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| Good luck Leigh. I have very fond memories of playing at Hilton Park in my youth & visiting as a speccie. It sickens me how heartland clubs are left to die like animals in the wild with little help from those who can.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: marillion man "Good luck Leigh. I have very fond memories of playing at Hilton Park in my youth & visiting as a speccie. It sickens me how heartland clubs are left to die like animals in the wild with little help from those who can.'"
It isn't the RFL s fault we are where we are though , it is ours , the world changes , if we don't change with it , we die , simple as
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