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| Quote: billyfax "Interesting the anti-tampering deadline for SL and the Championships is September 1st. Therefore any news about who is signing for next year would mean that a club has broken the Operational Rules regarding making illegal approaches to players under contract.
After the 1st, you can approach any player whose contract expires on 30th November of this year. Otherwise the anti-tampering rule remains in place for contracts with years remaining on it.
So either this is just a big pile of poo or Widnes are in a lot of trouble!'"
Widnes are not in trouble and this rumour is a load of e.I would not want Black anyway.  |
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| Quote: billyfax "Interesting the anti-tampering deadline for SL and the Championships is September 1st. Therefore any news about who is signing for next year would mean that a club has broken the Operational Rules regarding making illegal approaches to players under contract.
After the 1st, you can approach any player whose contract expires on 30th November of this year. Otherwise the anti-tampering rule remains in place for contracts with years remaining on it.
So either this is just a big pile of poo or Widnes are in a lot of trouble!'"
There are ways around it, hence why Chris Hill and Jamie Ellis were allowed to sign agreements with Warrington and Hull, not to mention the signings Widnes have already been making for next season (Cross, Briscoe etc). |
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Needs to buck his ideas up then. What has happened to one of my favourite players this season? One of the best at taking on the line and pushing players off with the best handoff in the league. We have hardly seen it this season for one reason or another. Lets see a strong finish to the season eh Blacky.'"
I'm not sure if it's a loss of form or if he's carrying an injury. Watch him when he's not involved in the play - he always limps! |
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Division One[/color:2i909pde]
Champions: 1903, 1986
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[color=#FF0000:2i909pde]Winners: 2010 [/color:2i909pde]Finalists: 2009
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]John Player Special/Regal Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
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Winners: 1909, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1964 Finalists: 1906, 1908, 1942, 1980
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire League[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1921, 1950, 1953, 1954, 1956
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Eastern Divisional Championship[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1964
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "There are ways around it, hence why Chris Hill and Jamie Ellis were allowed to sign agreements with Warrington and Hull, not to mention the signings Widnes have already been making for next season (Cross, Briscoe etc).'"
Only if the club have informed the players that they are not being offered contracts for next season. Then the players/agents are free to arrange contracts for next season. Any other situation sould be a breach.
Unless Halifax have told Ben Black that they will not be offering him a contract, then at this moment in time he is not allowed to talk to any other team until September 1st. Even if he has talked to another team it would be unwise to inform anyone of this so that word could get out that you have!
That's why it is unlikely to be true because Championship teams don't have to submit contract details to players until 9th September regarding next season. Therefore it's highly unlikely that Halifax have told him anything and even less likely that he's spoken to Widnes and arranged anything so a fan can blow the whistle on his own team. |
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Ben has had an operation on his knee and is out for around 3 weeks, so maybe he`s had that injury for a while. Lets hope he can come back to form for the run in.
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| Quote: billyfax "Only if the club have informed the players that they are not being offered contracts for next season. Then the players/agents are free to arrange contracts for next season. Any other situation sould be a breach.
Unless Halifax have told Ben Black that they will not be offering him a contract, then at this moment in time he is not allowed to talk to any other team until September 1st. Even if he has talked to another team it would be unwise to inform anyone of this so that word could get out that you have!
That's why it is unlikely to be true because Championship teams don't have to submit contract details to players until 9th September regarding next season. Therefore it's highly unlikely that Halifax have told him anything and even less likely that he's spoken to Widnes and arranged anything so a fan can blow the whistle on his own team.'"
The other alternative would be that Widnes have paid a fee to sign him (they're not exactly short of cash) but will allow him to remain with 'Fax until the end of the season. |
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Club Honours[/color:2i909pde]
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Championship[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1907, 1965 Finalists: 1953, 1954, 1956, 1966
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Division One[/color:2i909pde]
Champions: 1903, 1986
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Co-opearative Championship[/color:2i909pde]
[color=#FF0000:2i909pde]Winners: 2010 [/color:2i909pde]Finalists: 2009
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Challenge Cup[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1903, 1904, 1931, 1939, 1987 Finalists: 1921, 1941, 1942, 1949, 1954, 1956, 1988
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]John Player Special/Regal Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1972 Finalist: 1990
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]War Emergence League[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1943, 1945
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Premiership Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1986
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Second Division Premiership[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1991
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire Cup[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1964 Finalists: 1906, 1908, 1942, 1980
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire League[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1921, 1950, 1953, 1954, 1956
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Eastern Divisional Championship[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1964
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "The other alternative would be that Widnes have paid a fee to sign him (they're not exactly short of cash) but will allow him to remain with 'Fax until the end of the season.'"
Hmmm, I can't see Widnes being that stupid.
It just sounds like a strange thing to tell a fan when you know they won't keep their mouths shut. Plus what about all those poor Widnes fans that pay to get news before anyone else in the world. I think they'd be upset if they haven't heard it first!
I smell poo from this original post.  |
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| Quote: theredviking "Ben Black'"
You could at least come back and tell them you've been had off 
The OP I mean, not the player. |
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| I hope its a load of poo as we dont want him...you can keep him...
Even though we know hes a viking at heart  |
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A club can approach a player with the consent of that players 'parent' club.
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| Quote: J20 "This is brilliant ![]()
In what sense? In the sense that if true the Vikings are showing very little ambition or in the sense that people are looking further in to something that is clearly not true?
Like normally in this situation i would be thinking what players we could sign from Widnes that they dont take in to SL. In reality though its probably none and i would be more interested in seeing which players are leaving Barrow.
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