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Loving the hypocrisy of some.:



Quote: Waddy-Fax "Have to agree Bubba, I used to think you were a fax fan but all I see now is posts maybe fishing for a bite.'"


I honestly arent fishing for a bite. But it does annoy me how some supporters would rather bury their heads in the sand and blame everything on the football lot for trying to cause trouble.

As a Town supporter for many years, I have turned slightly paranoid about those who run "our" clubs. I have seen HTAFC in administration at least 3 times before its final demise a year and a half ago. I have also seen HRLFC on its knees a couple of times since I first started 'seriously' following the club around 1998 (when they first moved to the Shay).

I no longer trust the owners of "our" clubs. The only time they tell us that something is seriously wrong is when they expect us to dig deep in our pockets to bail them out. The latest set of accounts available on Companies House dont make good reading. This rent issue has been dragging on for longer than it should. There has been no comment from the club when it usually cant act fast enough to dismiss rumours and the people that matter most, the supporters, are more bothered about the football club than actually asking the club whether there actually is a problem.

Now you can aim digs at me over my support of FCHT as much as you like. I have broad shoulders and its water off a ducks back. But you should be firing your questions at those at HRLFC, rather than at me. Afterall the supporters make the club, without supporters it is simply a team and you deserve a little bit of respect.

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Quote: Bubba "The Council letter will be online on Monday (once the recipient of the letter gets to work and scans it).

I can see it now..."anyone can doctor a letter to make it look like it has come from someone else" bla bla bla.'"


Whats your point?

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Quote: faxlad66 "Whats your point?'"


icon_lol.gif I give up. Good night.

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Think you need to watch your mickey mouse team!

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Quote: Bubba "

You give up. You want barring starting another thread when the other one got locked.

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You don't trust the people who run our club? Have you any idea who runs HRLFC? Do you know them? I've never heard anything so stupid.

Our club is run by local successful businessmen who love the club and do it for no financial benefit.

Do I correctly understand that the stadium fiasco over the last few years has been run by someone close to you? How you can therefore talk about other people making a mess of things is beyond me. It has been said on this forum and in the paper that the reason the stand isn't open now is due to the the huge snagging list the amount of things that aren't fit for purpose. Where is the guy that is supposed to be sorting all of this out....oh, he jumped ship a few months ago didn't he? There are a few people who have taken a lot of money out of the stadium shambles, but seemingly now no one is accountable for mistakes.

Go back to your pub football and stop throwing stones over here.

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Yes there are many who use this forum that know many things about the fiasco that is the Shay Stadium but choose not to air it on a public forum .It`s people like Bubba that sometimes make me wish our club had not helped Town out by paying half their rent when they were in the usual mire.Did we ever get it back I wonder?

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Quote: original_faxfan "You don't trust the people who run our club? Have you any idea who runs HRLFC? Do you know them? I've never heard anything so stupid.

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I actually think Michael Steele is an extremely nice and decent bloke as is Howard Posner. I cant comment about the others.

Quote: original_faxfan "Our club is run by local successful businessmen who love the club and do it for no financial benefit.'"


Never said they do do it for financial benefit. They do it for all the right reasons.

Quote: original_faxfan "Where is the guy that is supposed to be sorting all of this out....oh, he jumped ship a few months ago didn't he? There are a few people who have taken a lot of money out of the stadium shambles, but seemingly now no one is accountable for mistakes.'"


As far as I know, Duncan left to go to Bradford Council to work on the Odsal Project.

And the recipient of the Council letter has asked me to put the following on.

Quote: original_faxfan "I am the person who has the letter from CMBC.

I did not seek the information out of malice, but because of all the speculation and insinuations thrown about on the Shaymen.net forum, between a certain elements of the support from both sets of fans.

I have no beef with the rugby team or most of the fan base, in fact if you read threads I have contributed to, you will see that I have defended the Rugby club against much of the inane criticism thrown about by some of the football clubs fans. But if you look at comments from a certain few fans of the rugby club, both on the courier comment pages and on the football website you will perhaps understand why it turns into what can only be described as playground level arguments.

I have noted the comments on this and the locked thread about the validity of the letter and have asked Bubba to scan and post it on your site, If that is what you want.

I have supported the football club for over 40 years and in that time have seen the club run into the ground time and time again because the poor stewardship of the club and I have no desire to see the rugby club go the same way, especially when there is every chance of a return to super league.

The Town needs both clubs to be successful AND VIABLE. So maybe it is time to ask the questions of the directors.
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Why don`t you go mind your own on your own forum ,there is no wonder your own Town Board will not have anything to do with you or your Supporters Trust.

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I think its this quote that has got them in a frenzy.

Quote: "Calderdale Council hereby gives notice to Mr XXXXXXXXXXX under section 17 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 that the information requested on 18th January 2010 for details of arrears to the authority in respect of Halifax Rugby League Football Club, is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act.'"


Unfortunatley the numptys from Town have taken this to mean we are in arrears when in fact its a pretty standard terminology used by many financial companies.
When will we get to see the original letter and why is the person who sent it a bit shy to have it put on one of the forums?
Id also like to see some comments from HXRLFC like they have in the past to dispell rumours like this and the Aizue one. That is unless they are true.

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Well as this ex councilor is thinking of the ratepayers of this Town and does not want the rugby club to go the same way as the Town lot maybe he`d like to publish some more information along with the letter.So the ratepayers are at ease with how this Town is being run and our councilors are beyond reproach (unlike the MPs in Westminster ) would he like to publish his old itemised expense claims along with those of the rest of his cronies so we can see some transparency in the council.Also could we have proper explanations about how this Town is run like a complete shambles eg Broad St. refuse collection and the most damning of all the poor vunerable children in our Town.
Nothing to do with this you might say? Well we don`t regard this item on rent you have posted up either as anything to do with you.I am surprised the man has nothing else better to do with his time given children at risk are being ignored wonder how many letters he`s written to the council about that subject.

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Quote: Bubba "I actually think Michael Steele is an extremely nice and decent bloke as is Howard Posner. I cant comment about the others.

Never said they do do it for financial benefit. They do it for all the right reasons.

As far as I know, Duncan left to go to Bradford Council to work on the Odsal Project.

And the recipient of the Council letter has asked me to put the following on.

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go away and enjoy your FC town forum.

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I can't believe the rubbish that some people will post to stir things up on the eve of potentially our best season in nearly 25 years. As I understand it anyway any rent arreas arise from the fact that the club refuses to pay more than the football club for less access.

The latest accounts show a (very) small profit. The clubs credit ratings are more of an issue because they can't raise capital investment. We are also listed as "company in trading difficulties" but so is every Super League team, most of the FA premiership and every professional sports club beyond that. Running a football or rugby club tends to be a hand to mouth existence at every level.

and as for the club having to jump up and deny everything or else it must be true - thats ridiculous. Every Tom, Dick or Bubba who makes something up then gets the prestige of a response which would see them just make up more and more s**t.

I trust our board to run the club properly, that doesn't mean that we will always be rolling in cash. I'd like to be able to trust our "fans" to concentrate on supporting the team.

On we go........

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Excelant post , in fact I along with most Fax fans will dig a bit deeper to ensure we have a brilliant season.

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Excelant post , in fact I along with most Fax fans will dig a bit deeper to ensure we have a brilliant season.'"


Me too...............starting with the link below

fluidab3.miniserver.com/~global/ ... cation.pdf
Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Excelant post , in fact I along with most Fax fans will dig a bit deeper to ensure we have a brilliant season.'"


Me too...............starting with the link below

fluidab3.miniserver.com/~global/ ... cation.pdf


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