We seem to visit some grounds with better facilities than SL
Widnes
Leigh
Sheff
Gateshead
Donny
Soon us
I may visit Cas, Wakey, Saints and Salford and hurt my ankle on the terrace sometime I might even strain my eyes at the Bull hole...
I reckon Franchising has failed and it should be survival of the fittest.
All it has done is let them buy overseas players for a few years...

Super League standards are no better than they were 10 years back, maybe worse...
2 up 2 down, bring it back now..

Will we get in under current rules? 50/50 at best, but we will play top flight Rugby again.

I want to see the French teams play in a competitive French League and so should they, dont mind helping them, seems as they play/love/support rugby.

One day sanity will return.

Red Hall Idiots should resign..

Now you've done it........First time poster here. Long long suffering fax fan living over the water in Ireland.

Thoughts on this.......Simply we must. Even if its just planning to do so in 2012. Anything else is simply accepting defeat & the inevitable.

Why?

We have in the recent past & can exceed the minimum 2500 attendance base. We certainly can draw on the local area to produce a worthwhile youth/academy set up.

We are well on the way to having a stadia to be proud of.

On field performaces are improving & so our capability to survive in SL.
Good prospects for a Grand final berth this year (barring any run in with a referee from South Yorkshire)

Off field management is getting slicker & more professional each year

If one of the 3 clubs targeted by the RFL need replacing why cant it be fax?
Yer telling me that after 2 or 3 years in SL we couldnt improve on let say Wakeys average crowd?.

Im old enuff to remember 'House Full' at Thrum Hall on a few occasions

Ironically One of the reasons I left Halifax was I felt sometimes there was defeatist/C'est la vie attitude taken regards most things in life.


DONT prove me right..............

No and .................yes.

Yes:
... if we win two GF's in a row and the NRC next year and have good runs/shock wins against SL teams in the challenge cup. That is what it will take to force the RFL's hand. Anything less will be a no.

No:
.....because Widnes are primed to take the spot, barring any financial disaster. Toulouse will be elevated as a derby "partner" for Catalans and for general expansion purposes.

Currently, our attendances aren't up to scratch - both to pursuade the RFL that we can add value to SL and for general financial security. We also need a big money backer or a team of smaller backers with an expanded board. We need this in order to be competitive in SL and that suits me fine. I'd rather stay as a top team in the championship than one of the whipping boys in SL. I would like to see more emphasis and investment placed on the Championship. There's too much talk of doing everything for a SL spot and ticking boxes. It does nothing for the esteem of a league which has plenty of potential in it's own right.

would love to see it but we wont get into super league.

widnes and toulouse will be the teams picked

If your team win a grand final/NR final and the finance is in place + ground improvements why shouldn't you have a chance to go up. As for the crowds i dont know what your average is but i disagree with this one it is a fact that they would inprove if you were in S/L.
It seems to me that some clubs in the lower league are trying to improve facilities while others in S/L just talk about it thr R/L need to stand by there word and if they do at least 1 N/L side will be promoted whether that is a the expence of a current tean in S/L i am not sure

There was a comment sometime back (pre franchise) that SL could be expanded by even more teams similar to the Australia.. i think it needed agreement from other members though. This would help.

Im not sure RFL can be trusted, it would seem its expansion at any cost, and the bill they are running up is huge now..

Every teams attendances would go up if went into superleague.

I dont care what anyone says we have every chance of making super league cos of the hard work and effort by everyone involved at the club. Lets beleve

Why waste letters ?

if we dont get in - it will give all the miserable old sods on here even more to winge about! least they wil be happy! jeeeeez

FFS

We fans need to do our bit, Martin-Matt and the boys are doing theirs at the moment - u canot do better than top of the leauge u are playing in!

ooooooooooooo-ali ali - - - ali ali ali ali E Fax

lets get behind our team AND sport - not bring it down FFS - our job is t get ourselves on to the terrace

2012 is 2.5 years away - lets let the on the field results do the talking and the club to get the plan in place for our application

ah come on fella were not that bad and have good reason to be suspicious and cynical while NW is involved in RFL... Do we think we should get in YES
Do we think well meet the criteria YES Will we back them all the way and further YES will we support them even if we dont YES
Its YES YES YES, but its not our decision and over the last few years we have had had our hearts ripped out several times by people that dont care like we do. I think we are going to need further expansion of the comp, and a team or two to be told to do what we Leigh, and Widnes have had to do and get our foundations in order and come back.... Its going to be out of our hands...

Unless as Littlerich says you manage to dominate the playing side of things with 3 consequtive GF wins then no

Widnes are the Championship club the RFL want and the one they will get