Like you say people were told money would be available but then we go out and sign players in positions we don't need so it makes you wonder who's decision those were. I understand the AOB signing as if you get a chance to sign a player way better than anyone you have in that position firstly you sign then to improve the team and secondly you sign them so they don't go elsewhere. It always goes back to the Pickersgill signing which given what has happened since has made no sense at all and you have to wonder what the thinking was behind it.

Then despite all these signings we now find ourselves in a position where we are having to put a winger on the bench to act as a makeshift second rower while we have actual forwards sat in the stands then we wonder when we get totally out muscled by one of the biggest packs in the league as to whats going on. Its not rocket science that you don't go to Batley and have only 2 forwards on the bench(yeah I know hooker but not counting them).

Let's face it, the only way we'll "do a Leigh" is to "get a Beaumont". The directors must find it extremely difficult balancing the books and recruiting decent players relying solely on attendances and sponsorship. And all it needs is a few hundred shaved off a crowd (this Sunday for example I guess we'll get 1,300-ish which will leave us a few thousand quid short) which will add to the struggle.

Even Fev don't appear to be that flush. They own their ground, but looking at their 2021 accounts there's over a million quid owed to "other creditors" and taking out the value of the ground they were more skint than us.

100%,part of a good coach's mantle it to work with players and iron out any perceived faults/weaknesses for the benefit of everyone,not alienate at the drop of a hat.

King didn't want to stay here, Doro is not playing for non-rugby reasons as far as I hear, and if correct rightly so. Neither of which we would have foreseen. Have you ever recruited people that on paper seem to be right for the job but then it doesn't work out, I'll admit I have. As for Springer, my understanding was it was also down his reluctance to put the effort in or to try and improve as well - and was on a decent contract when his lower paid team mates were prepared to work harder. Fev might be better placed to carry him with their squad depth.

Pete you don’t need a scoreboard , your side never moved at Batley.
As for your BOD , I know how hard they are trying to resolve the problems , it’s never easy , maybe Grix should walk , but I don’t blame him for staying , why lose money and put himself out of work .Have Zfaith .

Always seems to be a lot of dirt comes out on players when they leave us. Strange really as it also happened with Arundel(bad attitude), Worthington(lazy), Tyrer & Murrell(too much influence), QLT(not a team player) just to name a few who as veteran players all suddenly developed bad habits meaning they no longer fit in with us. Tyrer in particular was a brutal stamp of authority on somebody seen to have too much influence in the dressing room ripping away his chance to become the clubs all time leading points scorer.

Hey Ian,theres too many clowns on here backing Grix already...

Lol! That's a fair point re the scoreboard mate. Last Sunday was terrible, one of my worst days in over 60 years supporting Fax!

Always two sides to a story and never beleive the spin.King came here as Whitehaven's star man to further his career,to be told he wasn't good enough and sat in the stands..wouldn't we all want to leave in that scenario.Doro was dropped and castigated long before any perceived issue.Springer offered more in ten minutes spells than other forwards who are busy for 80 mins but produce nothing.
Looking at current players..Tangata now a liability-Larroyer not far behind.Moore-annoys me that he's on the field.Fairbank-where's the offload game ? I could go on..suffice to say it's all stale and not working and needs a complete refresh.

Pete it’s never easy following a team like Fax , I’ve have years of watching Leigh , I know your BOD work hard to get things right , keep the faith .

Again almost examples of trying to punish players before even giving them a fair chance with King and Doro. Maybe that suggests that Grix didn't have much to do with their signings as it seems strange to sign players and then come out in public and put them down, surely it would make sense to build them up but its never happened with those two along with others.

If we had beaten Batley most of these posts wouldn’t have been written

You'd be happy working alongside team members who didn't work as hard then whilst getting paid more? Jouffret and Walmsley had a transitional issue when they came from haven but were prepared to knuckle down and work on the areas they need to.

As for Tyrer and Murrell, both at end of their careers, we'd seen the best of them, most on here always complained about Murrell particularly in his latter years with us. Worthington went for more money. Arundel, didn't pull up any trees but i thought he did an ok job and defensively we were stronger with both of them. But again and if is true re his attitude (and I don't know) the impact on the team has to be considered.

But like you say there are 2 sides to every story, doesn't mean we have to go with yours

If we are bringing players in without the Coach's approval it's no wonder we're struggling.A coach working in conjuction with his scouting system identifies targets required to enhance the team and then approaches the footballing director to provide the necessary backing and finance-it surely can't work another way...?