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Quote: Leyther Always "I think everyone (Leigh & Fax fans) need to take a step back and review without bias which is pretty difficult for most people.

Both sets of fans have numpties and wind up merchants so lets not tarnish an entire club by this handful of people.

Not sure why people are asking Dick Jones/Rowley to apologise for saying he had a SUSPECTED fractured skull and bleeding, at the point that comment was made then that would have been the doctors reason for sending Barlow in an ambulance for a brain scan. I seriously doubt they would do that otherwise! Thankfully that turned out to not be the case.

All teams have/have had players with a nasty side to their game Barlow & Manning included and incidents such as this (not seen the one at the Shay) fall into that bracket and most sensible people would not defend them.'"

The slight difference of opinion is that Rowley introduced it more than normal into the first game when Leigh were losing and it was supporters from Leigh that came on here with their insults targeting everything Fax in general.

That's what turned it into not a defence of any one person or incident but Fax as a club and the bigger picture.

Success at Leigh has been a long time coming and I for one think it has been done by a lot of hard work and you deserve it.

However the steps that have been taken so far are just a few in the right direction and there is a long way to go but the way some are talking about the league leaders shield in the Championship it's as if you are world club champions and no one likes the big head approach.

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Quote: Leyther Always "I think everyone (Leigh & Fax fans) need to take a step back and review without bias which is pretty difficult for most people.

Both sets of fans have numpties and wind up merchants so lets not tarnish an entire club by this handful of people.

Not sure why people are asking Dick Jones/Rowley to apologise for saying he had a SUSPECTED fractured skull and bleeding, at the point that comment was made then that would have been the doctors reason for sending Barlow in an ambulance for a brain scan. I seriously doubt they would do that otherwise! Thankfully that turned out to not be the case.

All teams have/have had players with a nasty side to their game Barlow & Manning included and incidents such as this (not seen the one at the Shay) fall into that bracket and most sensible people would not defend them.'"


A good post, I agree we should all move on and I will now after I again say Dick did not say "suspected"
It was a deliberate attemp to derail my post entitled Sam Barlow. Take a look, my actual first post was suggesting we move on.
And then a Dick popped up.
Moved on.
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Also as it has been pointed out by more than one person who have nothing to do with Fax in this weeks RL press a number of games involving Leigh this season to use their words have involved brawls, punch ups and fighting.

The games mentioned were both against Fax, Sheffield, Dewsbury and Leeds.

As they said it can't all be down to the other side or not be done without being told to do so from the coach.

Before lecturing others on being thugs it may be wise to look into the mirror and not forget what you are seeing as soon as you walk away.

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I was not surprised re the RL scribes commentary and observations re Leigh's current trend of being involved in the more physical side of the game and it appears there is a common denominator starting to appear here with other clubs also involved by the look of it.
What I found VERY disappointing over at Leigh was an incident right in front of me where a Fax player was tackled by two Leigh players with a third running in, rabbit punching the trapped Fax player, then literaly running off to line up about 15m away from where the tackle had taken place. That's cheap shot rugby to me and also cheap shot commentary to say Fax are the' Scum of Rugby League.'
Leigh just need to stick to the rugby -that does its own talking as the league table currently shows. Resorting to bad mouthing another club and it's fans and physical violence on the field doesn't really wash with me.
Manning has got his punishment, Sam Barlow is due to play again shortly and both clubs have won two games since.
Let's all move on, with our own opinions, and get back to the rugby.

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Quote: Leyther Always "I think everyone (Leigh & Fax fans) need to take a step back and review without bias which is pretty difficult for most people.

Both sets of fans have numpties and wind up merchants so lets not tarnish an entire club by this handful of people.

Not sure why people are asking Dick Jones/Rowley to apologise for saying he had a SUSPECTED fractured skull and bleeding, at the point that comment was made then that would have been the doctors reason for sending Barlow in an ambulance for a brain scan. I seriously doubt they would do that otherwise! Thankfully that turned out to not be the case.

All teams have/have had players with a nasty side to their game Barlow & Manning included and incidents such as this (not seen the one at the Shay) fall into that bracket and most sensible people would not defend them.'"



The point is the word " suspected " was never even used and Dick Jones has also said more than once she was using the words of Paul Rowley then we had a post up in arms saying Barlow was attacked from behind he didn`t use the word "suspected "either ,what really hapened was a differant story .Then we get accused of being the scum of rugby league well I`ve moved on too and I`m just glad we don`t have to be bothered with the " soap style "story lines that follow Barlow around anymore .

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Agreed, ignoring opinions....that was one BAD tackle, some Fax fans seem to forget this. The 'fractured skull' rumours would had not been an option, if it had just been a 'bad tackle'. I know Manning has not murdered anyone, but let's at least admit he deserved his 10 game ban, or if not 7,8 or 9.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "Agreed, ignoring opinions....that was one BAD tackle, some Fax fans seem to forget this. The 'fractured skull' rumours would had not been an option, if it had just been a 'bad tackle'. I know Manning has not murdered anyone, but let's at least admit he deserved his 10 game ban, or if not 7,8 or 9.'"


Opinions , rumours ? Well they were stated as fact "hit from behind " Replay shows differant .
" Fractured skull , bleeding on the brain " Scan shows differant .
Opinions re` justification of ban fair enough you think 10 ,I would say less than that 6 .
Like I say I like most have moved on , glad we don`t have him to disrupt things at our Club anymore , feel sorry for the lad really ,always came across nice enough just lets people get into his head that`s all and there are always people about unfortunatly that take advantage. I hear he now thinks he`s replacing a certain forward due to retire at Leeds next year , maybe you can tell me if that is fact ,opinion or just another falsehood whichever is the case good luck to him .

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I am so sorry Sam Barlow did not suffer a 'fractured skull' or 'bleeding on the brain'.
The RFL don't hand out 10 game bans like 'confetti'....
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This will be my last post on this thread. We all need to move on. I certainly have. It seems despite me correcting my post, and apologising for stating it was a tackle from behind when it wasn't people are still referring to it. So once again I posted after having only 1 chance to see it in real time and got it wrong. I will reply also to an earlier post about a leigh player coming in 3rd man and rabbit punching a fax player. I will be honest and it probably won't surprise you but I didn't see it, however if you say you saw it then that is good enough for me. It's a shame it hasn't been put before the disciplinary panel too and dealt with accordingly. One final point - we will all disagree over the tackle that is the way it is, however irrespective of the timing and meaning of comments about fractured skulls and bleeding on the brain surely the fact that was suspected speaks volumes.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "I am so sorry Sam Barlow did not suffer a 'fractured skull' or 'bleeding on the brain'.
The RFL don't hand out 10 game bans like 'confetti'....
Quote "Glad we don't have him"

Try using the whole quote "glad we don`t have him to disrupt things at our Club anymore" and I agree with this. Sam, when on form, could be a brilliant forward. U nfortunately he could also be a liability and a serious disruption with some of his off-field antics!

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Quote: Budgiezilla "I am so sorry Sam Barlow did not suffer a 'fractured skull' or 'bleeding on the brain'.
The RFL don't hand out 10 game bans like 'confetti'....
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Like I said before if he had a bleeding brain he would be playing SL, not pretending clubs wanted him.

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Why 5 matches for fighting. Seems severe considering we see fighting in alot of games. Alot of which goes unpunished. Think the rules need to be clear and then it would not be open to question.

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No brainer really-he was wearing a blue and white shirt,played for the 'Scum of Rugby League ' and Big Nige the king of the RFL world passed his judgement to his minions to put Manning and Fax to the sword.

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Quote: chazzerboy "Why 5 matches for fighting. Seems severe considering we see fighting in alot of games. Alot of which goes unpunished. Think the rules need to be clear and then it would not be open to question.'"


He probably got 3, the same as Haggerty for the initial brawl, then they added two when the fool went back again instead of walking off - imo based on Haggerty's 3 he was lucky not to get more for this charge

Anyway move on - Barlow missed 2 games due to the 'tackle' but is back this weekend apparently and you guys have one hell of a game against Fev to look forward to with top 2 now a real option - especially if we beat them in August icon_wink.gif

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