I thought it was over in Glasshoughton?

....What he says Spot on that Michael! I personally dont have a problem with Cas or Wakey but it certainly does look like from the lower echelons of RL that they have both sat and done very little until they had to, in particular, Wakefield. The bottom line is we all want to be at the big table and i sincerly wish that all the clubs in question were, but as Inoffski and others have put it, it all comes down to the RFL....whoever they want in will be in...regardless! Its all a smoke screen of BS. Harlequins and Crusaders are a total laughable joke IMO and anyone who follows RL can see that, the only problem being is that in reality they will both be in SL and at least one TRUE rugby league club will not be. If current SL chairmen keep jumping into bed with the RFL power brokers and continue to pander to their ego then nothing will change.

Promotion and relegation is the only way. Im not against expansion, im against the way they go about it. Neglecting the heartland clubs for the fast buck will never work long term. As i have stated, the whole scenario is a joke and so are the RFL.

if waky dnt ave a staydiam dey shud b relygated!!!11!!

..and that's all i've got to say on the matter in hand

Wereyoutherein1987

The sport of Rugby League was never broken until the introduction of Franchise. There is quite simply is no need for it and it does not bring anything to the game other than create a closed shop for the so called elite teams. Rugby League will never be anything other than a Northern Game - always has been always will be. For 'Expansion' to work then the game at grass roots needs to be played in these areas for example the London Side should only ever be allowed to play Southern players if not they become a Northern team playing down South.

The only way forward is to bring back promotion and relegation with the aid of a 'parachute payment' if required. I know it will never happen but how are Championship Clubs ever going to expand when we as fans know we are only ever playing for a place in the Grand Final with no real reward whether we win or lose, other than a good day out.

Take todays announcement with the Marketing Director, this surely must be one of the hardest jobs at the club because yes we have a fantastic product but no new level to take it to. I do however wish him and the club every success and myself being involved in the club do want us to move forward.

On the Wakefield front I do believe that somehow they will be allowed to continue in Super League largely because if they are excluded due to the situation regarding their ground they would have grounds for legal action against any other clubs / RFL that have not laid a brick in anger. I think that from 2012 superleague will increase by two places making room for Widnes and hopefully Halifax but more than likely Toulouse as we push on with the great Expansion masterplan.

Cas and the rest have had around 15 yrars to do something about the stadium and most have done nothing except make up nice pretty designs.

Cas have had a couple of pretty designs over the years. But has any builders ever got close to laying a foundation down on any design? No and why i do not believe Cas will have a new stadium READY for 2013.

Fax like other championship clubs have been lucky that the council have helped but often it took a lot ofeffort to get this help. Fax also put ina wad of cash as well. I believe Fax put in around half a milluon over the years after selling Thrum Hall etc. Halifax Town and the Football Trust also put thousands of pounds in.

I'm not a Wakey fan so neither of above concerns me personally but you are right to mention solvency which, along with countless other criteria, must be more important than stadia standards. Salford and Cas should therefore be able to breathe more easily than the fur coat and no knickers brigade hanging around in posh grounds but previously having left creditors high and dry.... I won't be holding my breath though.