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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Just to confirm, the only thing that is based on a 3 year average is the on field performance isnt it? Our board saying different though. Again suggests flaws in the grading system when even teams seem to not fully understand how things work.

Our finances are clearly a mess though but i think a lot of us suspected that.'"


No, just about everything is based on a 3 year average (catchment area being one that's not but that's extremely unlikely to change anyway). I'm not sure why there should be any confusion, as it's clearly stated in the grading handbook.

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[b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein[/size:112mouem] [/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein[/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln [/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem]:13050.gif



Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "The Bradford breakdown for anyone interested:-

Performance 2.17/5
Fandom 3.95/5
Finances 2.75/4.5
Stadium 0.89/3
Community 2.25/2.5

We beat them on performance with the league averages and the cup win.

I thought we would beat them on Stadium but maybe not and I wonder if its on a technicality surrounding the sponsors seats otherwise we should have the full 1.5 Facilities score. We don't get much for utilisation and nothing for Primacy of Tenure but the Bulls may score highly on utilisation given their manipulated attendances and closure of part of the terracing. We did get the big screen bonus though.
Just quoting for comparison purposes:-

Fax
Performance 2.39/5
Fandom 3.2/5
Finances 0.55/4.5
Stadium 1.67/3
Community 1.25/2.5

I guess its like what we expected and looking at the grades the club has done well on the Fandom score although I think the reality is that Bradford's score will come down next season in this respect due to reasons that Fev alluded to in their statement. Again though they do get a lot more fans than us which will translate in to clicks so we have done pretty well to be so close to them.
Community as mentioned we can't do anything about this really and this is the most ridiculous pillar in the gradings. Stadium wise it does look like we got the full 1.5 score for the facilities along with the big screen bonus and the rest made up on utilisation.
Leaves us with finances which we have the lowest score that we have seen any club given which is obviously a worry but we could spin it and say that with some investment we have the potential to make a lot of points up here on our competitors.

Overall I know Matt Shaw likes to be a bit of a drama queen at times and in the article calls for Fax fans to get real, I think the majority of Fax fans see ourselves as miles off a SL club but promotion and relegation did at least give us hope, I mean going in to this season I can't have been the only fan who had thought we had a sneaky outside chance of promotion can I. London eventually went up so it shows that it was in fact possible. Now you look at our scores in this system and tell me where we find 4 points from that turns us from a low B to a borderline SL club.

Our scores on performance, fandom, stadium, and community are not so far off been the max that we can achieve due to different restrictions and finances just been in the championship is quite restrictive in itself. You take all that in to consideration and its very clear to see that a team like ours is not supposed to be in the top flight under the new system.

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Quote: Mr Dog "No, just about everything is based on a 3 year average (catchment area being one that's not but that's extremely unlikely to change anyway). I'm not sure why there should be any confusion, as it's clearly stated in the grading handbook.'"


Thanks for confirming, I'm just going over the handbook again and I'd got a little confused as to what was for the full 3 years and what isn't. Like the bonuses for winning cups only counts the current season which seems a tad unfair and a strange way to do things when like you say other things are judged on the full 3 years.

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The current board haven’t really had the the time to have an impact on the finances as of yet , they did state that they would try and get more sponsors involved which I’ve heard is going to happen , whether these new sponsors eventually become shareholders remains to be seen but there is potentially exciting times ahead if they do . I believe croads involvement with the club ends at the end of the month with regards the shop etc . I’m on the fence with the img thing but tbh it doesn’t change a great deal , Halifax are a club that could grow with investment but ultimately we’ve been a championship club for sometime. The thing that will be problematic is when for example Wakefield play Widnes/york/fax/ fev in the final even if Wakefield lose they still go up , just looks daft .

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Quote: Listenup94 "The current board haven’t really had the the time to have an impact on the finances as of yet , they did state that they would try and get more sponsors involved which I’ve heard is going to happen , whether these new sponsors eventually become shareholders remains to be seen but there is potentially exciting times ahead if they do . I believe croads involvement with the club ends at the end of the month with regards the shop etc . I’m on the fence with the img thing but tbh it doesn’t change a great deal , Halifax are a club that could grow with investment but ultimately we’ve been a championship club for sometime. The thing that will be problematic is when for example Wakefield play Widnes/york/fax/ fev in the final even if Wakefield lose they still go up , just looks daft .'"

Your not supposed to mention the shop. icon_lol.gif

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Whatever you don’t mention who’s names will and won’t be on the new kit. icon_wink.gif

Although Davies might pretty safe. icon_lol.gif

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It doesn’t really matter what I say on this forum, ultimately it’s not 1987 , we aren’t burning our lips on hot tomato soup in a polystyrene cup , we’re not urinating in two inch of saying get em onside and forrad pass . Rugby league probably belongs on a sketch from back to the future.

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[b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein[/size:112mouem] [/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein[/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln [/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem]:13050.gif



Widnes Scores in comparison:-
Performance 1.72/5
Fandom 3.3/5
Finances 2.25/4.5
Stadium 1.9/3
Community 1/2.5

Fax
Performance 2.39/5
Fandom 3.2/5
Finances 0.55/4.5
Stadium 1.67/3
Community 1.25/2.5

Again shows we do pretty well Fandom wise and Widnes only beat us on Stadium because of Primacy of Tenure. The elephant in the room is obviously the finances and I would love to see a breakdown of ours. We obviously score the 0.3 on the Turnover % and presume we don't run at 1m in debt every year so we should get the 0.25 on Adjusted Profit. That leaves a lot of questions on the other sections.

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New CEO appointed by the club with among other things IMG in mind.

https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... thers-ceo/
New CEO appointed by the club with among other things IMG in mind.

https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... thers-ceo/


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Lets hope his next signing is a wizard accountant because i think he will need one . Wish him luck in his endeavours

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According to this article, Championship clubs appear to get just £50k a year central funding:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/67372408
According to this article, Championship clubs appear to get just £50k a year central funding:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/67372408


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London today decided that they are shutting down their scholorship and academy schemes. If IMG do have a plan I am not sure that was a part of it.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "London today decided that they are shutting down their scholorship and academy schemes. If IMG do have a plan I am not sure that was a part of it.'"


Whatever happens on the pitch next season they will be booted out of super league. Probably be replaced with Bradford. Can’t blame them taking the decision not to throw good money after bad.

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Quote: freddies wig "Whatever happens on the pitch next season they will be booted out of super league. Probably be replaced with Bradford. Can’t blame them taking the decision not to throw good money after bad.'"


Yeah it's easy to see why they have done it, no point developing players for SL teams when it costs them as much as they said.

Personally I think it will be Wakey and Toulouse that replace London and Leigh. The fact that Leigh are in real danger with their CC Final points coming off just highlights for me how daft the system is.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "just highlights for me how daft the system is.'"


Can you imagine the media backlash if Brentford got relegated from soccer's premiership despite finishing mid-table? RL get away with it because it will always be a 3rd class sport nobody really cares about.

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