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Quote: faxcar "Courier has an article including comment from Calderdale Council's sport and active Leisure manager Mike Murray who says the pitch will be relaid in the summer.

In part it he says " The period of significant rain and snow over the winter led to problems with the pitch but we continue to allow games to go ahead approaching one game at a time and try and plan our maintenance accordingly."

"We have a maintenance window planned in the summer where we plan to remove existing grass, thatch the top 2-3 inches of soil and fully reseed and regrow the pitch surface."

"We also carry out routine drainage work on the pitch throughout the year and we are working with both clubs to see what further improvements can be made to the pitch during the summer."'"

Half hearted Halifax again, I despair I really do. Get it dug up and relaid. Sportsman, Mallinsons 777, 4.2 % Mmm!

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It may be a silly thought, I often have them but is there no sort of system that could use coverings that could be pulled on and off before and after heavy periods of rain or snow.

These are the times of course that are hitting the pitch hardest, if you could keep the worst off then there would be less to drain away.

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Without a drainage system there's nowhere for the rainfall to go. If you cover it where are you going to put the water that collects? The only way is to have a pumping system, dumping the water into the forest areas to the North of the stadium?

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Blumming Heck. We've sent men to the moon, allegedly! Just give us a pitch to play on! icon_beat.gif Grove, shudds. Hawkshead Lakeland Gold 4.4 % Mmm! icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Quote: littlerich "We didn't send anyone to the moon. NASA did
It cost $100 billion to send man to moon , i think the pitch could be sorted with that much to spend.

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Quote: cowfax "It cost $100 billion to send man to moon , i think the pitch could be sorted with that much to spend.'"


With that sort of spend, I'd expect a pitch ON the moon

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Quote: littlerich "Without a drainage system there's nowhere for the rainfall to go. If you cover it where are you going to put the water that collects? The only way is to have a pumping system, dumping the water into the forest areas to the North of the stadium?'"

Yes, I work in construction, there must be existing top water and foul water drainage systems already in place not only for the pitch but for the areas around the pitch but without seeing the drawings it's guess work. The Council will have the drainage plans and know what's in place.

Any run off from when the pitch was covered would go into the surrounding drainage which seems to cope a lot better than the pitch does.
The size and type of covering would be the problem.

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Quote: Brew "With that sort of spend, I'd expect a pitch ON the moon'"


If anyone put up a "bomb" though we could go for a pint while we were waiting for it to come back down. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Brew "With that sort of spend, I'd expect a pitch ON the moon'"



There would be no atmosphere at all, just like being at odsal!

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Quote: faxcar "Yes, I work in construction, there must be existing top water and foul water drainage systems already in place not only for the pitch but for the areas around the pitch but without seeing the drawings it's guess work. The Council will have the drainage plans and know what's in place.

Any run off from when the pitch was covered would go into the surrounding drainage which seems to cope a lot better than the pitch does.
The size and type of covering would be the problem.'"



Last summer they put mini drains down the length of the pitch. This summer they are putting them across the width which will tie in with the length ways and supposedly make huge improvements. We shall see.

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Quote: Bubba "Last summer they put mini drains down the length of the pitch. This summer they are putting them across the width which will tie in with the length ways and supposedly make huge improvements. We shall see.'"

Effectiveness will depend on the type of drainage.

If the mini drainage is of the soak away type it works but not as well as traditional drainage, basically the pipes typically have small pre made holes in them that allows any water to slowly seep through them from the surrounding soil into the pipe and then to gradually drain away into the surrounding land or into the water drainage systems.

Draw backs are the holes often get clogged up and the water doesn't get through as well over time and the amount of fall on the pipes especially at these lengths is minimal.

If it empties into surrounding land that can soon become saturated itself so is not very effective, if it's into a proper underground drainage system then it is much better.

Depending what is there you can usually have top water going into a top water and sometimes a shared top water and foul water system but you can't have foul water going into a top water system.

I would have thought Yorkshire Water would be the controlling authority down at the Shay they will know what can and can't be done as will the Borough Engineers.

The point about covering the pitch was to be pro active and try and prevent at least some of the heaviest rain / snow getting on it in the first place but as I say covers could be expensive and not practical.

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Quote: cowfax "There would be no atmosphere at all, just like being at odsal!'"


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Quote: faxcar "Effectiveness will depend on the type of drainage.

If the mini drainage is of the soak away type it works but not as well as traditional drainage, basically the pipes typically have small pre made holes in them that allows any water to slowly seep through them from the surrounding soil into the pipe and then to gradually drain away into the surrounding land or into the water drainage systems.

Draw backs are the holes often get clogged up and the water doesn't get through as well over time and the amount of fall on the pipes especially at these lengths is minimal.

If it empties into surrounding land that can soon become saturated itself so is not very effective, if it's into a proper underground drainage system then it is much better.

Depending what is there you can usually have top water going into a top water and sometimes a shared top water and foul water system but you can't have foul water going into a top water system.

I would have thought Yorkshire Water would be the controlling authority down at the Shay they will know what can and can't be done as will the Borough Engineers.

The point about covering the pitch was to be pro active and try and prevent at least some of the heaviest rain / snow getting on it in the first place but as I say covers could be expensive and not practical.'"


There is good main drainage from the pitch into the sewer it is just a case of joining up the new drains that they install this summer into the main drain.

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