Wigan have have gone into a DR deal with Newcastle. I thought Newcastle had gone full time. So it looks like even full time teams in the championship still feel they need to get into bed with a SL club. What’s the point of being full time of your going to drop your players for a SL payer who hasn’t had a game at their club or coming back from injury.

As far as I know Leigh are full time next season , and gone on DR with St Helens , Fev are DR with Leeds but I don’t know if they are full time this season .

Fev aren't full time, though some of their players don't have a job outside RL.

I'm saying nowt!

I must have missed something being in the far east. I understood D R had been scrapped in favour of a loan system ? or have the mighty super league amended things to suit themselves again?

I saw a few fans getting all giddy on Facebook and laughing at teams going with DR but we will be DR'ing with Huddersfield wont we?

I would imagine so , the problem with duel reg is it messes up the cohesion of the team , if I was a player and getting dropped for 1/2 games so Huddersfield can warm up one of their players it would be frustrating to say the least , let’s say your Titus gwaze and you’re hungry and you’re training well and feeling like you’re ready then someone like Oliver roberts or matty English comes in for a game you’re gonna be frustrated to say the least . And you’re gonna be doubting your own ability and whether the coach trusts you .

Season long loans should be season long loans non negotiable, I think bourouh played about 30 mins when recalled last year , complete waste of time for the player and both clubs .

Spot on.

They simply won't exist then. The modern game is so attritional that SL clubs will hardly ever allow season-long loans without a recall clause, it would be madness to do so.

So what you're advocating is that as well as having the top 200 players in the country making up the 17-man squads in SL, players 201-400 (give or take a few) end up waiting for injuries or having the odd game in the reserves, whilst the Championship only has access to players outside the top 400, barring the odd splash Championship signing. Then the gulf in quality between SL and Championship becomes even bigger, and Championship clubs have to raid the already-struggling amateur game to pad out their squads and fulfil games.

FWIW (which may not be a lot!) Mick Gledhill said he was at the Shay for the Fax shirt launch and saw Oliver Roberts and Matty English there.

I stand by my statement yes , the example I give of amir bourouh is why , he was taken back by lam at Wigan to play 30 mins of rugby from the august the 20 th to the end of the season , 6 games in total or 480 minutes which benefits no one , you just have a player sat in limbo , ironically amir bourouh was sat in the stands watching Halifax play and was in neither squad because of these ridiculous agreements. Season long loans puts the player 1st in my opinion, at least they know we’re they stand .

I think Simon Grix based on the same podcast you listened to regarding matty English and Oliver roberts isn’t keen on the system either .

It seems to be the two players that we are all expecting although I would love to have seen Sam Hewitt back. I think the Roberts deal would have been announced earlier if Gledhill had not have got wind of it and announced it on Twitter.

To dual reg or not to dual reg it seems most people don't like it yet most do it. As far as roberts is concerned he would give us extra strike out wide him and gee in the second row looks pretty handy to me. Garside did seem to up is game when he got back in the side after Hewitt was recalled and i would say he as a higher work rate then roberts but not the tackle busting abilities. And Kavanagh i don't know if he is better out wide or through the middle once sides worked out the short ball off grix he didn't offer much threat but does have good footwork for a forward and a decent turn of speed.

It's fine to stand by your statement, but you can say that you prefer season-long loans all you like, there just aren't going to be many in the modern game, they just don't make sense for the SL team.

It would be the same situation with Championship clubs loaning to League 1 clubs - for instance, if, say, Greg Worthington and Joe Arundel are Halifax's starting centres in week 1, would you be happy if Zac McComb is loaned out for the rest of the season with no recall clause?

Interesting example from my point of view as I wasn’t happy when zac McComb was loaned out for a couple of weeks to Dewsbury last year especially when Ed barber primarily a second row and Greg worthington who only scored one try all season ( nothing against Greg and I appreciate his value ) we’re placed in front of him . Zac came back and played with enough merit to warrant consideration for player of the year . However I digress, it’s slightly different ( I do take your point ) as McComb played and borough was left in no mans land , lam played shorrocks in front of him, it wouldn’t have been so bad if he’d have come back once lam wasn’t picking him . Last season was unique with the covid protocols and was very disruptive . I acknowledge it’s a difficult balancing act but in answer to your question I would have accepted zac McComb going out on a season long loan as long as for example bourouh / Hewitt season long loans were honoured by Wigan/ Huddersfield respectively.