https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... x-27906916 if wakefield are no longer in SL then the SL get out clause does not stand does it so is a fee due what are chances of Wakey paying this.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... x-27906916 if wakefield are no longer in SL then the SL get out clause does not stand does it so is a fee due what are chances of Wakey paying this.

Wakefield have a millionaire owner so if they want him make them pay a decent fee for a 30 try a season winger. If they won't come up with the goods, stuff 'em! Unfortunately due to that statement i can't see Walmsley playing for Fax again. He says he loves Halifax, but not enough apparently, to honour his contract. There will be other clubs in for him i'm sure but it's a sad indictment of where we are when a club like Wakefield can outbid us.

I wouldn't sell him to anyone in the championship. He can either see out his contract and then go were he wants or find a super league club who are happy to do a deal for him.

That’s the same link that was posted in the other thread and changes nothing.

Wakefield aren’t a Super League club so they can’t trigger any release clause.

Fax aren’t bidding against Wakefield to sign him he’s already a Fax player who has 12 months left on his contract and well done to them for getting that in place, but there aren’t many clubs in the Championship who have a millionaire backer who’s new on the scene ready to spend who could compete with them and is just a true reflection of the financial status of the majority of clubs below Super League rather than some slur against Fax.

The club know better than anybody what he’s capable of and all the pro’s and cons and implications on and off the field of whether he stays or goes but if he does any club who he goes to will have to pay.

As it stands because Wakefield are classed as a SL team until the SL contracts expire for the season they would have to pay the fee that is in his contract and as Fax have allowed him to speak to Wakefield it looks like we are quite willing to let him go. The issue looks to be that Wakefield are purposfully waiting until they are not classed as a SL team to avoid paying this fee in the hope that they can unsettle him and Fax will eventually let him leave for pennies(or at least a lot less than the fee in the contract). Fax now have to hope that there is interest from another SL team(by all accounts there isn't more than likely down to this fixed fee) otherwise things could get messy.

I can see this one going to a tribunal where the likely outcome would be a ruling in favor of Wakefield as they are able to offer him full time employment and better facilities. Either way Fax are looking likely to get screwed over.

It must be a SL team who triggers the release clause as per the signed contract.
If Wakefield are judged to be a Super League team when they have made their approach which officially must be through the club then they must pay the sum specified in the contract.

They can’t have it both ways and say they are SL so can trigger the release but then they aren’t SL so don’t have to pay the fee it’s is all part of Walmsley’s contact, without the fee there is no release.

My take on this, is that Wakey have failed to sign Walmsley whilst they were SL so now that status has passed, the SL clause is no longer applicable, irrespective as to whether they "started" talks or not - surely that's irrelevant, it's not written down in black and white!

But if Walmsley doesn't want to stay then just let him go to Wakey, as long as they pay through the nose to sign him. We don't want players who don't want to be here, no matter how good they are.

Yes this has been previously mentioned in the other Walmsley thread, there is the legal side regarding the contract ( which as per usual with the RFL isn’t clear ) and the personal side regarding the player involved to take into consideration.

If he is offered more money he will move to another club regardless of whether it is championship or SL. It’s his job and we all want to be paid more.

His contract runs for another 12 months.

Wakefield are not bothered about the clause as they won't be planning to pay much of a fee if any. By approaching Halifax they found out that they could trigger a clause that could release him, by doing that they have also found out the players intentions and the past couple of weeks and more than likely the next couple of weeks until their SL status expires will be spent by them trying to unsettle him in the hope that he asks for a release, afterall he has already expressed this desire publicly which is perfect for Wakefield. Fax are now in a tricky situation as they know Wakefield have no intention of paying the amount stated in his contract but they also know they have a player who is wanting to leave and maybe tempted to accept a much lesser fee rather than go down a messy tribunal route which historically does not favor clubs in our position.

Very scummy what Wakefield have done but also very smart and there isn't usually a happy ending for the selling team at this point.

Seen that Wakefield now favourites to sign Mcgilvray - don't know how many wingers they want but gave me a bit of hope they might be looking elsewhere. Off course they may want both!

Matthew Shaw has spoken to Fax, Walmsley and Wakefield and in the linked article at the beginning of this thread this is what he says and it's clearly all about the release clause.

And with the amount of the transfer fee inserted on the original documents Wakefield have triggered it, that part is not in dispute, Fax are disputing their right to do so based on the interpretation of their current Super League status.

[iQuoteWakefield had activated a release clause in his contract, Halifax have contested the interpretation of the clause, resulting in no agreement being reached at this stage.

As per the RFL's supplement clause bank, clause 10.4 states."[/i End quote.

Wakefield are a SL club until their SL status expires official regardless of confirmation of their relegation, I am not quite sure what Fax can be disputing. At this point if Wakefield wanted to pay the release clause they would have signed him but the simple fact is they think they can get him for next to nothing. I don't really trust what Shaw writes when it comes to Fax as they are reluctant to speak to him because of what they see as numerous breaches of trust so I hope what he has wrote isn't true otherwise it looks like Fax have been blindsided by Wakefields actual intentions.

So Matt Shaw is making it all up and he's spoke to no one but if what he says is true then Fax have been screwed anyway!

Wakefield are a club who have been relegated but are still in Super League so they can activate a release clause that they have no intention of honouring and are just stalling for a couple of weeks until their not a Super League club and can get him for nothing.

Fax aren't disputing anything and their making no attempt to keep hold of a contracted player who has been one of the most prolific try scorers in the division for a number of years and are prepared to let him go to a rival club for next to nothing, I mean why would they wouldn't they!

And if it goes to a tribunal Fax are sure to lose.

So thanks Wombat, who can we get to replace him?