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| Halifax RLFC
Halifax RLFC submitted an application with insufficient detail in their marketing, media or commercial plans. The club business plan was inadequate, figures presented by the club as the budget and performance forecasts for the 2012-14 Licence period were speculative and the club did not provide sufficient information for KPMG to complete their assessment procedures. Whilst the club has an excellent community program, a good facility and has recently strengthened its Board and player performance system, the club fell below the standards expected of a Super League club. Grade C.
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats’ application confirmed that new ownership has injected enthusiasm, capital and business acumen into the club. The business plan provided achievable targets for growing the business, and a realistic strategy to reach these targets. Wakefield’s performance on the field and player supply across the current Licence period has been acceptable and their community programme is excellent. However commercial, financial and governance performance in this Licence period has been poor, with the club entering administration in February of 2011. The club continues to face a number of challenges. The stadium position is uncertain, and the significant challenge for the club will be to deliver the commercial and supporter growth required to allow the club to trade in a sustainable manner whilst improving competitiveness on the pitch. Grade C.
WOW, Didn't expect to see insufficient Marketing, Media and commercial plans as we took on a Marketing & Media Director. We didn't provide enough information for them to make a assesment. At least we delivered it by helicopter though.
Anyway, thats that, Come on the Might Fax Players tonight is your night to Shine.
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| Its nothing to do with SL tonight....the players need to turn up, perform and show us why we pay our petrol money to follow the Blue and White away from home. This year has been indifferent, but with a few good performances this group can turn it around!
when watching playoff series in the past i have always supported the team finishing 6th, as they have never actually got to the final. if there was one team i thought could do it it would be us!
up the FAX!!!!!!!
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| "Figures presented by the club as the budget and performance forecasts for the 2012-14 Licence period were speculative."
What else could they be?
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| We have to be positive, make the admin side beyond question and win, win, win on the field to keep the presssure on.
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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "Its nothing to do with SL tonight....the players need to turn up, perform and show us why we pay our petrol money to follow the Blue and White away from home. This year has been indifferent, but with a few good performances this group can turn it around!
when watching playoff series in the past i have always supported the team finishing 6th, as they have never actually got to the final. if there was one team i thought could do it it would be us!
up the FAX!!!!!!!'"
That was a dig at our BOD, and before anyone starts i aint interested in running a rugby club, I pay my money and go to the games buy merchandise etc so i have my right to moan now when they have been harping on that everything is gearing up towards being in SL, when clearly its not when they hand in a application that is inadequate and cannnot even be considered along side any of the others then we were on a hiding to nothing from the start.
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| dont worry peoples, we will be more than competitive next year!
a new era at Fax, excited much!!!!!!!
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| Quote: Faxhali "That was a dig at our BOD, and before anyone starts i aint interested in running a rugby club, I pay my money and go to the games buy merchandise etc so i have my right to moan now when they have been harping on that everything is gearing up towards being in SL, when clearly its not when they hand in a application that is inadequate and cannnot even be considered along side any of the others then we were on a hiding to nothing from the start.'"
we got the same grade as Wakey, london, salford and widnes! we cant have done that bad.
the 1st three teams having waaaaaaaaay more funds than us!
all we can do now is improve off the pitch (like widnes) andhopefully win some trophies on the way.
forget about SL for now....the focus should be on tonight!
Come on FAX!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote: Fax Faithful ""Figures presented by the club as the budget and performance forecasts for the 2012-14 Licence period were speculative."
[iWhat else could they be?[/i
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| Quote: a.n Other "Why didn't we withdraw our bid if it was as bad as the feed back suggests? I hope the club will stop stating about readying ourselves for SL in their blogs announcements from now on. As we won't be anywhere near ready. This was our big chance with Wakey and Crusaders being awfull and that chance was blown.'"
I totally agree with you their, If they are not able to fill the application in properly then perhaps employing a specialist to get this right in the first instance would have been what was needed. I know the board work hard and that but sometimes its worth getting someone in who knows how. It such a let down to read that basically we didn't have a chance anyway as KPMG couldn't do their assessment due to lack of information, and now the part that really gets me is the " Would we have been in if the bid was up to scratch in the first place", we will never know. ces la vie
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| Quote: spanishbob "Wait a minute, it also says Wakefield was poor in Commercial, Governance and Finance and of course we can only speculate what our gates would be in Superleague, we are not there....
Rather than appologise its worth pointing out that Wakefield is extremely lucky to just get a licence ahead if us. What tickled me was the statement that on field performances were acceptable.
What baffled me was why we were told in Marchthat our bid was acceptable, but come July its not. Typical RFL. Didn't KPMG see the bids in March?'"
The state of any other clubs bid is not an issue. The point is the Fax was appallingly bad and lacking in detail - there is nothing to compare to other clubs.
This is something I posted at the time of the decision and the idiotic ramblings of the Fax chairman.
I was derided by certain Fax fans (not you), and it is they I await the apology from - not as a Wakefield fan, but as someone who posted the truth and was abused for doing so.
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| Did KPMG study Celtic Crusaders bid the last time round? Did they study Wakefields? Both went bust during the license period. Their bids may have been presented nicely but they were obviously flawed because they we both financially knackered.
The club should hopefully be in possession of a more detailed feedback from the RFL so that they can put in a "proper" bid next time or decide that it's unable to put in such a bid and withdraw from the process.
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| Quote: dboy "The state of any other clubs bid is not an issue. The point is the Fax was appallingly bad and lacking in detail - there is nothing to compare to other clubs.
This is something I posted at the time of the decision and the idiotic ramblings of the Fax chairman.
I was derided by certain Fax fans (not you), and it is they I await the apology from - not as a Wakefield fan, but as someone who posted the truth and was abused for doing so.'"
"You want the truth, You can't Handle the truth"
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