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Pollsters doing Excellent job - say recent polls.:



Quote: faxcar "[i[Part quoteAt championship level your standard mainstay squad player has a trade as his primary job - earning him somewhere around £30k +/-
He then plays part-time RL for an additional £10-£15k per year.
And that is it. You can build a 22 man squad for about £250k from that premise. And RL is a simple enough game that it will be competitive." End.
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Not having a go and a serious question.
When has Bradford's playing budget past and present ever fitted into the financial figures mentioned above.
How much was Dec Patton on, how much did it cost to get Gaskell to sign, how much is Joe Keyes going to be paid.
How many other players are being paid between £10-£15 k per year and what is the likely hood of that ever happening?
It's all too deeply rooted and too far gone and now events are catching up and it's difficult to know what or if there is an answer.

Maybe if enough go bust and enough of them still have the desire they rise from the ashes and form a division that's based on the lower wages / entrance fees that have been mentioned.'"


Those 3 you mentioned are all halves. Usually a premium on them.

A specific example is recently Thomas Doyle - Bradford offered him £25k to stay but Keighley went for £30k. He had fulltime offer from Leigh in the £45k range which didn't compensate for his job so he stayed part-time.
I'm a Bradford fan, and I can see the issues. Bradford have options for jobs for players - in the foundation, in the academy. Whilst the academy costs low 6 figures, it does provide alternative sponsorship & funding streams. And the 3 newest directors (excluding Wood) do seem to be prepared to fund various areas for IMG points but also the performance side on the pitch.
I would say currently in Bradfords squad - Arundel, Hallas, Davies, Smith, Baldwinson, Butler are all the older type of player who have either been in SL or have no desire for SL and will take a decent part-time wage.
Scurr, Myers, Jowitt, Peposhi are all the second type of player, still trying to prove to an SL club they are worth a shot.
The elephant in the room (which I understand) is that Bradford have signed at least 6 overseas/Aussie players who won't have come over for that kind of wage. They'll have to be on more, possibly split with the foundation.

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Quote: Tony Fax "You pointed out that Bradford and Fev blocked a motion for a TV deal. It's ridiculous that just a couple of clubs can block stuff. The clubs HAVE to get together and a minority shouldn't be allowed to veto motions. Otherwise all clubs will continue to lose circa £200k a year and we all know where that'll eventually end up.'"


It was more than just Bulls and Rovers.

Against were Bradford, Batley, Dewsbury, Doncaster, Featherstone, Wakefield and Widnes.

For were Swinton, Halifax, York, Barrow, Sheffield and Toulouse.

Didn't vote. Whitehaven.

The RFL didn't have to accept the vote and could have forced it through but decided to do nothing.

That apart it's just an example of the difficulties of getting anyone to agree on anything and getting it implemented.

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Fair enough,majority against...think it was a paltry figure on offer anyway...

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I see London's sugar daddy, David Hughes, has had enough and wants to sell the club. Probably explains why their 2023 accounts still haven't been filed, being nearly a month overdue. So I'll give you London's 2022 results - an eye watering £27.3 million net liabilities and a £1.5 million loss.

So I've no idea how much Hughes is expecting to get from the "sale". He'd struggle to give it away IMO.

Therefore, in summary, assuming London's financial position didn't improve in 2023, they take the prize for being the most heavily in debt at £27.3 million, overtaking Huddersfield's £15.7 million with Wigan in 3rd at £10.5 million. Leeds are the richest with net assets of £11.4 million but that includes their ground at almost £9 million. likewise Cas in 2nd with net assets of £4.1 million which includes the ground of £8.2 million and Saints in 3rd with net assets of £2.2 million but including a ridiculously valued lease of £31.7 million.

Overall a right mess. Now I know why they used to call the promotion decider "the million pound game", because that's how much you would expect to lose each year in Super League.

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I’ve often said without a sugar daddy we’ve no chance but after looking at some of the accounts of those with them maybe it’s time for the entire game to get back to reality and all start drinking tea without.

It only takes Sky to walk away and those at the top have the furthest to fall.

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Quote: faxcar "I’ve often said without a sugar daddy we’ve no chance but after looking at some of the accounts of those with them maybe it’s time for the entire game to get back to reality and all start drinking tea without.

It only takes Sky to walk away and those at the top have the furthest to fall.'"


Exactly. The top division in sport is supposed to be a great money earner, but it costs millions of sugar daddy money to merely survive in Super League. What a joke, eh?

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