I go to a few cas games with living locally and there games not clashing with ours and i would say that the Liam watts you see today is a shadow of the player he was a few years ago. He does have business interests outside of rugby so a move to part time rugby may suit him or he could be a good pick up for the side that gets promoted from the championship this year. As for Battye i have rated him since is first spell at the eagles and he reminds me of some of the forwards at Batley short and stocky and hard to pull down. Just on where do Sheffield get there money from i was talking to a group of there fans on friday night and they all said the council are putting money into the club make of that what you will.

What's your opinion?

It’s a collective responsibility , what’s yours ?

I agree and know the point you are trying to make so you would also agree that the league table is the result of the collective effort as the season progresses?

I already have a good idea of your response to that so to avoid going in circles, ultimatley in sport its a lot cheaper to get rid of the person in charge of a group of players than it is to get rid of the group of players and that is why there will always be more calls for the coaches head than the players. That is not going to change no matter how much anybody thinks it should.

The fact that we have caused more problems to Fev and Toulouse this season than any other team in the league just leads to more questions than answers about Simon's last season in charge. Now if we were to finish 6th and at the very least make the final, which I think we are capable of doing as I have said all season, then some people that were constantly clamoring to have him sacked may have some back tracking to do.

Interestingly and slightly off topic this forum’s opinion on Grix followed a similar pattern to when Matt calland was in charge in 2010 ,( yes I’ve gone back and read the forum )not gonna say we’ ll beat fev in the final but it’s certainly not beyond the realms of possibility ( ironically we play a similar brand of rugby) but when you read thing’s objectively I think we see things differently, I think as time passes grixs’ tenure we ll be seen as a successful one .

On this question and the one on collective responsibility.

On the pitch what the difference is as obvious as night and day.

The players must have the ability and fitness because otherwise we wouldn't get the results.

Fitness levels are often the reason we get the results, rarely if ever the reason we don't.

When we get the results the effort / focus and intent the players put in to do it is present.

When we don't get the results the effort / focus and intent the players put in is missing.

When things don't go right people always look for a scapegoat who in this context is often the coach and pretty soon the calls to sack him start.

We know the club didn't do that with Grix and offered him a longer contract so as far as they were concerned his ability was never in question.

Whether it's a less expensive option for a coach to leave who has the ability and proven track record at this level and for the players who sometimes can and sometimes can't be ars*ed to put the effort in to stay for the incoming coach to inherit remains to be seen.