Think all that is widely exaggerated by our coach to match agenda-never saw the likes of Springer constantly struggling to retire yardage in defense,but was capable of shifting momentum like he did in the first game at PO road this season.
The lump at Batley on Sunday (ward ?) would never meet the Grix criteria at 3 stone overweight
but does more damage in ten minutes than our forward pack managed in 80.It's a team game
and you need players with different attributes.

Your argument would suggest a team full of Springers would have been beaten 60 nil at Batley.

Anyway, it's not working out at the mo but hopefully we'll turn things around this Sunday. A few weeks ago you'd never bet on Wakey beating Wigan and Hull winning at KR so maybe we're just going through a blip ourselves. Up the Fax!!

Sometimes you have to accept that some of your team mates have failings. I mean Greg Austin had a tendancy to be a little bit lazy in defense but he would likely be another one that would struggle under Grix because of it. At the back end of last season and all this season we have been crying out for a forward able to get his nose through a tackle and maybe create something with an offload out of a tackle, instead we got Dan Fleming.

Yep, there seems to be too much emphasis on this hard work in training marlarky, which only seems to have raised its head recently. I do get it, of course I do, but quality trumps hard work imo and I'd rather have a team full of quality Springers who have a chance of winning rather than a team full of hard working Oakleys who probably haven't. Just imo!

Springer quality haha. Dear me.

Austin lazy, maybe a perception, but I saw him make many cover tackles. And same was said by many of Chris Andserson when he always had hands on hips.

I agree things are not rosy at the moment. Some decisions made don't seem the right ones. But I don't buy into this devine right to win or that we have the 2nd/3rd best team on paper, or that I wouldn't swap any of our players with any other team....

Over the recent seasons when we have achieved my view is it has often been above expectation, driven by strong team ethic and in some instances fortune to get a roll on in results and maintain confidence. We are clearly rock bottom on confidence and RL has fine margins, you only have to be a small % off your game and you can get badly beaten.

We are missing leaders on the field, I guess one of reasons we have brought Adam O'brien in, whereas we used to have several on the field. Not only for direction on our plays etc but that motivational aspect when required.

As for listening to spin, like has been said before, there's 2 sides to every story, there's a lot of biased spin on here as well, but I'll put that down to having differing views and opinions. Some of us will be closer to the mark on somethings and not on others.

I wouldn't take any of our current props over him but for me personally I value been able to get on the front foot and get a roll on more than I do a list of training stats that I feel only tell half the story especially when our pack has been so easily dominated this season. It was quite ironic in the first game against Fev this season that his actions went a long way to beating us but some fans it seems would rather have your workhorse, give penalties away for fun, type forward over a game breaker.

When can you take over as coach please..

Funny thing is I think any coach in any of the top 3 divisions could have coached us in to 6th place this season with the squad we have.....the better coaches in the division would have had us top 3.

I think this squad should be in 2nd place, definitely if Keyes hadn't been injured, he was just coming back to last year's form when he got crocked. If that makes me dillusional or self entitled then so be it. As for SG, he is here for the foreseeable future like it or not and i still believe we can rescue the season so hopefully the fans all pull together and see where we are at the end of the year. Up The Fax!

Not sure why you think that's funny. Runaway leaders Fev also think differently as he's a regular. Yet Grix thought he should be dropped. That says it all!

Ryan King mom in Haven's recent big win v Widnes-think they tried him in the halves too....oh the irony..