Looks like just me and thee having this debate, faxcar, even though I'd like to think others are looking in either nodding their head in approval or shaking their head in disagreement.

You come up with some very valid and interesting points, and even though I disagree with some of them, I fully respect your opinions therefore I'm not "retorting" with a scowl on my face.

I did say I don't think the clubs "will" work together multilaterally, but I think they "should". As you have gathered (!) I feel VERY strongly about having to reduce the admission. I know it will be extremely difficult in getting ALL the clubs to do this, but it just has to be done. Maybe carry out some kind of survey asking ex fax fans and potential fax followers for a SENSIBLE price they would pay to resume watching again, then take it from there. A survey carried out through email shots, the Courier or some geezer stood at the entrance of the Piece Hall. We need to be proactive about this and not just sit on our hands expecting people to continue to turn up and/or there to be a sudden interest surging out of the blue.

As for your point regarding "banning" full time players being illegal. A low salary cap restriction (a salary cap is legal remember) will prevent clubs from being able to employ full time players to a certain extent. So the Championship will essentially be part time which MUST be the case, we cannot afford to be anything else. We have to accept our league won't be as entertaining as full time Super League (which incidentally isn't always the case anyway, I've seen some awful one sided matches in that league, even though it was funny seeing big prop Walmsley running 50 yards through Leeds' full time defence ). Part time rugby can still be entertaining, you know. RL as a whole coped very well in the "old days" before the advent of over hyped Super League.

PS - Just seen your post, Hxsparky. Personally I'm basing my own tenner suggestion as being inline with salaries inflation over the past 25 years. £19 now is a commitment rather than what used to be loose change. From my own personal view point, the cost of going to a match never used to be an issue 30 years ago (I went to all home and away matches) but now it is an issue - I won't attend away matches because of the admission price (and I'm not short of a few bob, I just think it's bad value for money).

I can't agree with that. 1) So low skill...Lot's of SL players start off in the Championship and below, that's where they learn their skills. There are some great, skilful players in our league. 2) Unimaginative...That could be the very description of SL. 5 barges and a kick is the name of the game and the better players have, for the most time, had their skills stifled and coached out of them. I obviously want to see Fax back in the top tier, but if it's entertaining rugby you want to be watching then SL is not the place to be. Up The Fax!

Wish all super league and championship games were half as good as last night's Cas v Wire game...although accepting it was a rare exception.

Another quote from Connor Robinson on the twitter feed

"...[iit's going to be a new-look squad and I suppose so many new faces can be daunting[/i..."

Interesting if true. Makes you wonder whether they are having to wait for the Super League to finish before announcing some of the signings.

Not sure about any other SL incomings to the Fax squad but I would guess the reason Paul Brealey, (who was originally said to be leaving) is now not in the outgoing names will be down to what happens with Toronto.