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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"Yes I know what you mean and getting the balance right is one of many challenges the coach has to face in recruitment.
The players we are talking about and many others were at one time on their way up when the SL clubs first took a look and them and gave them a chance but for whatever reason they weren't retained.
Who's to say the current "on the up players" would be any different if they came to Fax and if they were how long would it be before SL came calling, eg: Rawsthorne and Butler.
Apart from SL, Fax are just a Championship club in and among some very good rivals and it will be a tough ask even to attract the better players at our level, those who we manage to, I'll settle for that at the moment to be honest the state we are in.'"
That's my worry. A few years ago we were much more attractive to players from Bulls, Dewsbury, Batley, Swinton, York, Sheffield, and even Fev and Leigh. I dont see any players at those clubs being too desperate to join Fax at the moment.
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| Quote Halifax1989="Halifax1989"That's my worry. A few years ago we were much more attractive to players from Bulls, Dewsbury, Batley, Swinton, York, Sheffield, and even Fev and Leigh. I dont see any players at those clubs being too desperate to join Fax at the moment.'"
Exactly, an average club is attractive at best to average players and then it’s likely down to who pays what and considering we’re reportable skint...............
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| Fax's latest accounts for y/e November 2018 have recently been filed at Companies House which showed they made a loss of £463 and are insolvent to the tune of £179k.
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"Spot on. As good as Kaye and Moore have been and are for us neither is the best passer of the ball. Maybe it will improve slightly next year with Carlisle coming in but will it improve enough.'"
If Keal Carlile's coming to you, he's a good Championship 9 (well he was, I haven't seen him this year). Quite a few Fev fans were very disappointed when he left Fev, as was Keal, but some of that is because he is a local lad. Has no problem fizzing the ball out from dummy half and decent at setting up attacking plays.
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"Yes I know what you mean and getting the balance right is one of many challenges the coach has to face in recruitment.
The players we are talking about and many others were at one time on their way up when the SL clubs first took a look and them and gave them a chance but for whatever reason they weren't retained.
Who's to say the current "on the up players" would be any different if they came to Fax and if they were how long would it be before SL came calling, eg: Rawsthorne and Butler.
Apart from SL, Fax are just a Championship club in and among some very good rivals and it will be a tough ask even to attract the better players at our level, those who we manage to, I'll settle for that at the moment to be honest the state we are in.'"
But what state are we in? I don't know. I'm still waiting to hear details of the q&a meeting.
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay"But what state are we in? I don't know. I'm still waiting to hear details of the q&a meeting.'"
Precisely Hudds.
Overall. On the premise good news travels fast and ours still hasn’t left the office =.
However on current playing standards we don’t need a club announcement to tell us that.
On thread and the topic of player recruitment for next season we are probably in a worse starting position / state than we have been for years.
SG has copped for a hybrid side in decline left over from both KH and RM and has a total rebuild not only of personal but playing styles and players attitudes and I for one don’t envy him.
He is aware of it and will be trying to sort it out, whether he has the funds and ability to do it is another question but we have to give the man a chance.
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| I understand that being 9000 miles away I will never get the 'inside track information', how do people know who is being looked at, offered terms, ect when there has not been any communication about the Q and A session made public, ( not on any platform I can access).
I know that with with players being part time they are more contactable, but do they know? are they in the loop of potential signings? does S G have an open forum and ask the remaining guys who they would like? very democratic if he does, very unprofessional if players are making public statements, or is it all paper talk, has someone got a microphone attached to S M evesdropping his every word? if so can you attach one to the Directors meeting room so we all know what is going on? Halifax Panthers ? thought we had done away with silly names.
I am all for moving forward, but a rebrand? are Fax the 'dulls' in disguise?
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"Precisely Hudds.
Overall. On the premise good news travels fast and ours still hasn’t left the office =.
However on current playing standards we don’t need a club announcement to tell us that.
On thread and the topic of player recruitment for next season we are probably in a worse starting position / state an we have been for years.
SG has copped for a hybrid side in decline left over from both KH and RM and has a total rebuild not only of personal but playing styles and players attitudes and I for one don’t envy him.
He is aware of it and will be trying to sort it out, whether he has the funds and ability to do it is another question but we have to give the man a chance.'"
This whole 'side in decline' is a misnomer. It's a convenient excuse. Yes, some of the playing group are headed over to the other side of the '30' hill but still cannot masquerade for the fundamental reason why we have won 1 in 11 / 5 out of the last 17; When I see Grix comment on a total lack of confidence, it doesn't fill me with optimism when one of of his duties is to motivate. I don't want to signal SG out for unwarranted criticism as he has little no experience and little to no apprenticeship. (Leading on the field and coaching are fundamentally different). I will say again, he needs an experienced head / mentor to allow him to build his own style of delivery. It's blind faith with Grix next year whether or not we improve. There is more than enough quality and experience in the current team but the harsh reality is that he has been unable to stem our terminal decline since the Bradford game which either demonstrates that the players have a.) been unable to adjust to his style b.) SG has been unsuccessful in identifying what core issues the team had. Pretty confident that when prospective coaches have interviews, there is some discussion about what is going to be done differently......
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| Of course we need a rebrand. Times in the entertaining world have changed. We need match day to be exciting and different - some entertainment gong on the grounds behind the South Stand, for example. Incentives to get people going.
Currently we have boring cheer leaders (bless them for their efforts) and half time "entertainment" involves some geezers racing each other on the pitch (god give me strength!). And with sub standard rugby following, well worth 19 quid  (NOT!)
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| Quote SingaporeFax="SingaporeFax"This whole 'side in decline' is a misnomer. It's a convenient excuse. Yes, some of the playing group are headed over to the other side of the '30' hill but still cannot masquerade for the fundamental reason why we have won 1 in 11 / 5 out of the last 17; When I see Grix comment on a total lack of confidence, it doesn't fill me with optimism when one of of his duties is to motivate. I don't want to signal SG out for unwarranted criticism as he has little no experience and little to no apprenticeship. (Leading on the field and coaching are fundamentally different). I will say again, he needs an experienced head / mentor to allow him to build his own style of delivery. It's blind faith with Grix next year whether or not we improve. There is more than enough quality and experience in the current team but the harsh reality is that he has been unable to stem our terminal decline since the Bradford game which either demonstrates that the players have a.) been unable to adjust to his style b.) SG has been unsuccessful in identifying what core issues the team had. Pretty confident that when prospective coaches have interviews, there is some discussion about what is going to be done differently......'"
How can the “side in decline” be a misnomer and then be said to have been in “terminal decline” since the Bradford game?
The “decline” or seeds of it were sown long before the recent Bradford match and even before the winter game at Odsal, well before Grix got the job and there are many factors involved.
As for SG he wouldn’t have been my choice because as you say he has no first hand experience but that decision has already been taken.
This thread is about recruitment and not the rights and wrongs of Grix appointment.
Back on track and connecting a few dots if it would have been wiser to bring in an experience coach then I can see why he has looked at bringing in some experienced players to make up part of his side.
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"How can the “side in decline” be a misnomer and then be said to have been in “terminal decline” since the Bradford game?
The “decline” or seeds of it were sown long before the recent Bradford match and even before the winter game at Odsal, well before Grix got the job and there are many factors involved.
As for SG he wouldn’t have been my choice because as you say he has no first hand experience but that decision has already been taken.
This thread is about recruitment and not the rights and wrongs of Grix appointment.
Back on track and connecting a few dots if it would have been wiser to bring in an experience coach then I can see why he has looked at bringing in some experienced players to make up part of his side.'"
The point being that the side was not in decline. There was nothing to suggest it was the last 4 seasons. Saying it was / is. Makes it convenient for some people.
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