I'm never convinced that is the right way to go. There's a reason they are not wanted by SL teams, would prefer to get the best players on their way up, ie. the best of Batley, Dewsbury, Swinton, L1 etc.

I agree, young and hungry is the way to go not the merry go round of players nearing the end of their careers. All teams need the older heads but on the whole I'd have lads who are looking to make a future in the game. Up The Fax!

Yes I know what you mean and getting the balance right is one of many challenges the coach has to face in recruitment.

The players we are talking about and many others were at one time on their way up when the SL clubs first took a look and them and gave them a chance but for whatever reason they weren't retained.

Who's to say the current "on the up players" would be any different if they came to Fax and if they were how long would it be before SL came calling, eg: Rawsthorne and Butler.

Apart from SL, Fax are just a Championship club in and among some very good rivals and it will be a tough ask even to attract the better players at our level, those who we manage to, I'll settle for that at the moment to be honest the state we are in.

That's my worry. A few years ago we were much more attractive to players from Bulls, Dewsbury, Batley, Swinton, York, Sheffield, and even Fev and Leigh. I dont see any players at those clubs being too desperate to join Fax at the moment.

Exactly, an average club is attractive at best to average players and then it’s likely down to who pays what and considering we’re reportable skint...............

Fax's latest accounts for y/e November 2018 have recently been filed at Companies House which showed they made a loss of £463 and are insolvent to the tune of £179k.

If Keal Carlile's coming to you, he's a good Championship 9 (well he was, I haven't seen him this year). Quite a few Fev fans were very disappointed when he left Fev, as was Keal, but some of that is because he is a local lad. Has no problem fizzing the ball out from dummy half and decent at setting up attacking plays.

But what state are we in? I don't know. I'm still waiting to hear details of the q&a meeting.

Precisely Hudds.
Overall. On the premise good news travels fast and ours still hasn’t left the office =.

However on current playing standards we don’t need a club announcement to tell us that.

On thread and the topic of player recruitment for next season we are probably in a worse starting position / state than we have been for years.

SG has copped for a hybrid side in decline left over from both KH and RM and has a total rebuild not only of personal but playing styles and players attitudes and I for one don’t envy him.

He is aware of it and will be trying to sort it out, whether he has the funds and ability to do it is another question but we have to give the man a chance.

I understand that being 9000 miles away I will never get the 'inside track information', how do people know who is being looked at, offered terms, ect when there has not been any communication about the Q and A session made public, ( not on any platform I can access).
I know that with with players being part time they are more contactable, but do they know? are they in the loop of potential signings? does S G have an open forum and ask the remaining guys who they would like? very democratic if he does, very unprofessional if players are making public statements, or is it all paper talk, has someone got a microphone attached to S M evesdropping his every word? if so can you attach one to the Directors meeting room so we all know what is going on? Halifax Panthers ? thought we had done away with silly names.
I am all for moving forward, but a rebrand? are Fax the 'dulls' in disguise?

This whole 'side in decline' is a misnomer. It's a convenient excuse. Yes, some of the playing group are headed over to the other side of the '30' hill but still cannot masquerade for the fundamental reason why we have won 1 in 11 / 5 out of the last 17; When I see Grix comment on a total lack of confidence, it doesn't fill me with optimism when one of of his duties is to motivate. I don't want to signal SG out for unwarranted criticism as he has little no experience and little to no apprenticeship. (Leading on the field and coaching are fundamentally different). I will say again, he needs an experienced head / mentor to allow him to build his own style of delivery. It's blind faith with Grix next year whether or not we improve. There is more than enough quality and experience in the current team but the harsh reality is that he has been unable to stem our terminal decline since the Bradford game which either demonstrates that the players have a.) been unable to adjust to his style b.) SG has been unsuccessful in identifying what core issues the team had. Pretty confident that when prospective coaches have interviews, there is some discussion about what is going to be done differently......