I'm sorry but i think this thread needs a bit of realism......

Were we poor today? Yes

Have we under performed for the season to date? Yes

Has our discipline and completion rare been diabolical so far? Yes

Have we lost away at Widnes and Fev before? Ermmmmmm, Yes!

I get that people are frustrated with our current form (myself included) but the strides we have made in the recent years under Marshall are the biggest I've known in a long long time. We now have a reserve side we can be proud of, we now have a link back with the local amateur clubs which has been missing for years, we have finished in the top 4 twice in the last 3 seasons, we have a stable financial grounding, we have a team full of fax lads wanting to play for our club, we have various supporters club and trusts that are gaining momentum and constantly growing.

I get that its the entertainment industry and people want us to play exciting but id rather we built from the ground up rather than to spend money we don't have just to "entertain". Look at Widnes, I'm sure they would rather be in our position than to be where they are right now, people need to look beyond the end of their nose!

Up the fax!!

Didn't say we were perfect by any means.

Just facts.

What happened when riddy got injured. Did you make top 4 ?

Especially when Your DR partners didn't supply you with enough players.

If you look through the fax team last year we weren't reliant on DR

Sure we all know what has been achieved, why because we’ve been part of it through many avenues such as sponsoring the reserves / financial support and in other areas.
The reality is that in spite of all the progress there’s still more to be done.
What we are seeing at the moment is way off the mark and is not going to do it.
Not only supporters but everyone involved with the club from the BoD, RM and the coaching staff will not be happy with current first team performance as I’m certain RM will be saying tomorrow.
Nobody at the club will be giving a seconds thought looking back to past achievements or at the sorry looking current situation at Widnes.

Have we improved though? Last season we looked no closer to winning a game in the 8's than before. We are certainly as far away from SL as we have ever been under Marshall albeit I don't think the blame lies at Marshall's feet for that. He has spent more money this season than in any of his previous seasons and we look a lot worse than we have in previous years and a lot worse than a team that was put together only a matter of weeks ago. Our stable financial footing is made of quick sand with the club struggling to sell sponsorship for even the better games in this league and it has to be a serious worry with crowds already not living up to expectations and likely to go lower with performances on the field.

Of the positives yes we have a good reserve set up that could do with playing a lot more games but again its not down to Marshall, hell he doesn't even speak to half the reserves players and most of the work is done by Gonzales and Greenwood. The supporters groups are doing a great job as well and it must be frustrating for them seeing the club do such a bad job of pushing games. Im sure many would agree its time for wholesale changes through the club but the club will continue to be run like an amateur organisation mascarading as a semi professional club.

Even the dates on the away travel are wrong! Basics, basics!

Don't see how wearing mascara is going to help.