Saddest part of this thread is that not one person mentioned the disgraceful personal attack on Michael Steele which Tony Fax opened up with. A man who has spent more of his own money, given more of his own time and fought the Club's corner more than probably anyone else in the last 10 years, in the pursuit of delivering stability and success so that you lot have something to bleat about.

Despicable.

I have to say I am quietly confident in the changes being made, making a real difference off field and bringing back ambition and enthusiasm to the club once more. It's positive from me. In with the new now please.

OK OK, I apologise for the comment about Michael Steele. I was upset at the Swinton result, and my frustrations got the better of me.

And it's an accumulation of things ...... trips to the Shay have become more of a chore than an enjoyment. Struggling to get into the top 4 in a 12 team league says it all and I fear for the club if we fail again this season. 4 meaningless home games will see yet more fans not bothering and getting out of the habit of attending, and with the £17 admission putting off new fans, the spiral down will gain momentum.

I only attended last season's "league of death" games because I had a season ticket, and likewise this season. But this bonkers league structure will mean I won't be renewing my season ticket for the first time in 30 years in 2018, and even though I'll have the intention of attending all the regular season games, I'll probably end up picking and choosing. Don't blame me, blame the RL.

Why on earth can't we have the old style top 5 play off system (where the top team has 2 bites of the cherry at home) with the GF winner getting promoted? It's not too much to ask. Is it?

You have a point about the Shield if we end up in it as I won't be going to the away games apart from Odsal if we play there and the home games are not very appealing either playing the same teams again and not in a knock out game but I have a season ticket so will go.
We need to go back to something like the Northern Rail Cup and Play Offs with a Grand Final I agree

Good on yer Tony and I fully share the accumulated frustrations.
I'm just going to games on autopilot these days partly because of how we have being playing and partly with what's going on in the game overall.

Agreed.