I agree with Chris_smith last week brown did ok as did cowling so why drop them? some of karl's team selections this year have been shocking we need to build on last beet but we have gone 2 steps back how longs Johnson out for ?

going ok until leigh started the fighting and it knocked fax right out of their performance.

I still think we are having the wrong sort of fitness coaching if those warm up rituals I see each week are anything to go by. I was doing that type of thing 30 years ago as a player in the 20th century!We constantly run out of steam by the end of the game.
KH also needs some help with backs coaching and selection.Why have we let our only other recognised scrum half go to a main rival on the eve of the most critical game of the season when we have a doubt about the other. 3 hookers in Mennel /Kaye and Holden are not in the same class as Beswick/Penky/and Gleeson- when that tactic did work.
Also Cowling stops anything coming through that centre chanel, gets dropped and we put a player in who was totally skinned for pace every time.
Fair play to Leigh they played us off the park in the 2nd half but we don't help ourselves at times!
I will be at Barrow next week and expect to see a far more professional performance than that against the bottom side club.

In all fairness... You talk about Brown doing ok last week but Mennell was one of our best players today. Lets not do him an injustice in moaning about releasing Brown. He wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference to today's result

I am so so disappointed. 24 up and an extra player on the field and we did nothing to stretch them. Quite the Opposite they did it to us ! Yes from where I was sitting
One of Leigh's try's was so far forward the Leigh player had to stretch his leg out to kick it forward and another one of their tries was a blatant obstruction. But, they played and kept going and we didn't. We should have sown the game up and didn't.
Saxton had good game, in fact most of them did, Leigh just wanted it much more when Barlow was sent off. He is a hot head and it made me smile. A game with 4 sin bins and one sending off, and team coming back from 24 -0 down! A great game for the neutrals (or Leigh fans)! Bring on Barrow

Utterly embarrassing.

I wondered why we did this lat wee, and I'm still wondering, why are we tapping the ball instead of kicking to touch when we are about 25 metres out?
Last week we did n't kick and tried to drive the 20 metres against a Dooper League side.
Dumbass rugby if you ask me.

Wow some game that . Thought fax went well first half . Leigh , it seemed to me , were only interested in the physical confrontational style - when they decided to play rugby with pace , skill and style they produced some excellent stuff so full credit to them . When Fieldhouse goaded McNally as he went over for the try I said to a friend " that will come back to haunt him and us' . It was a stupid thing to do - anybody remember Asa Amone doing it v Bradford as fax stormed to a commanding first half lead and then Fax getting stuffed in the second half ? Also thought Tonks should have been yanked off earlier as he was clearly wound up and not concentrating on his game .

Was Cowling injured?
If not why on earth not play him today? Heaton never passes and was off the pace today.
Got to ask why let Brown go to Batley the week before such an important game when Johnson was injured, Mennell tried his socks off and did well but we missed Brown's kicking game he showed against Widnes as Murrell second half lost his kicking boots.
I am massively disappointed at losing a 24 point lead to concede 36 points before we replied is poor especially when we conceded 24 points when they were down to 12 men, they showed how to use the ball and realised they could do us out wide.
They looked good when they spun the ball wide, unlike us we reverted to type and went up the middle and didn't use the extra man until it was too late.
This was a huge opportunity for the club to get back those missing fans and sadly an opportunity lost with more questions over our coaches ability?
Only excuse maybe was the Widnes game but I thought us having played harder games would help, maybe not, maybe we just have to accept that the money they have thrown at their team is paying off, a gamble but working so far.

Agree with you Norman Bates . We seem to be tapping more regularly now and not kicking for touch although when we do kick the quality is appallingly bad . Do we not spend time line kicking in training - if there isn't a kicking coach / advisor at the club I'm sure the club could approach any local union side and get some advice because at the minute we are gaining little ground .

When sillyhouse goad McNally I thought you naughty boy hope we beat you now and we did