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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"As I stated before the fact is whatever was said months or over a year ago there is an on going dispute concerning rent at the Shay between HRLFC and CMBC now.
The real reason for this is unknown to outsiders and is not being revealed by insiders.
The positions of both have been declared by both with on going discussions taking place.
That being the case what has this got to do with you either as a tax payer or follower of Town or in any other context it is none of your business especially when your motive is to cling to and publicise anything negative about the rugby club.
Another fact at the risk of repeating myself again is the whole rent issue must be resolved with the agreement of both parties for the rugby club to play out of the Shay as the recent alleged lock out proved
Haven't you been patted on the back for your "good" work by the same ones who have resorted to any means possible in their attack against HRLFC.
Your actions are bordering on obsession.'"
Faxcar, I'm sorry that it has taken me so long to post this but it came up in a discussion with Nat where he said I'd "filled in the blanks with pure speculation and conjecture", therefore I considered it important. Unfortunately for us CMBC have 20 working days to respond, meaning there has been this delay. You'll be pleased to hear I've not submitted any FOIs since the arrears have been paid; I'm just tidying up loose ends as I feel that is the decent thing to do.
Just for clarity though, CMBC can't lie in an FOI response, so the whole rent dispute issue only appeared after 19th November, so if it is long running no-one at the club bothered to tell the council in an official capacity. Indeed, as the council have a written promise to pay the entire amount, with no amount disputed, suggests they may be on quite strong legal grounds when it comes to collecting the arrears.
Again, this is why Town fans were sceptical of Reactiv's purchase of the ground when all we had to go on was a promise of 'trust me'. Your directors broke a written and verbal promise to pay and didn't have the decency to contact CMBC to say they'd miss the deadline. Replace CMBC witha mortgage company and both clubs would have been out on their ears.
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| I find the amount of animosity between the 2 clubs and sets of supporters totally bizarre. Neither club can be proud of their financial matters over recent years, but to keep looking back is pointless.
Personally I just don’t get it! We have 2 clubs who play in different sports so they don’t directly compete with each other and therefore in that regard are not a threat to each other. They both represent the same town, and use the town’s name. They both play in the same colours at the same venue and both are not getting enough people through the turnstiles. History is history, I just can’t believe in this modern day the clubs are not doing more to work with each other, economise, be more efficient, e.g. one marketing team, shared promotional and fundraising events, explore joint sponsorship deals, a shared retail outlet. And maybe more clout to get the council or stadium owners to provide facilities fit for both teams.
Instead, we have the petty minded point scoring against each other, fans obsessed with the other club more than their own teams performance, wanting the other club to fail (when in fact both really need the other to succeed).
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| Quote gizempo="gizempo"I find the amount of animosity between the 2 clubs and sets of supporters totally bizarre. Neither club can be proud of their financial matters over recent years, but to keep looking back is pointless.
Personally I just don’t get it! We have 2 clubs who play in different sports so they don’t directly compete with each other and therefore in that regard are not a threat to each other. They both represent the same town, and use the town’s name. They both play in the same colours at the same venue and both are not getting enough people through the turnstiles. History is history, I just can’t believe in this modern day the clubs are not doing more to work with each other, economise, be more efficient, e.g. one marketing team, shared promotional and fundraising events, explore joint sponsorship deals, a shared retail outlet. And maybe more clout to get the council or stadium owners to provide facilities fit for both teams.
Instead, we have the petty minded point scoring against each other, fans obsessed with the other club more than their own teams performance, wanting the other club to fail (when in fact both really need the other to succeed).'"

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| DM all that changes nothing regarding the outcome or what it has to do with you and reinforces what you are doing, clinging to anything you can to attack the rugby club from a biased perspective.
They are not my directors as in the term "your" but it does show that you are approaching it as a Town fan.
This shows where the real division exists in your approach despite your previous claims to be a concerned tax payer and you are part of the division within the community with your approach.
It creates and feeds the Town v Fax mentality for those that will be taken in by it.
You use the term "suggests" which proves you do not know for sure but quickly follow up in saying as if fact that CMBC would be justified using legal action all the while knowing that each party have their own "reserved positions" after having recently consulted with each other and legal action was never even mentioned or intimated at.
Both parties accept that from an internal informed position they have a difference of opinion as it stands now, but will work together towards a resolution.
As above you state that directors have reneged on an agreement but fail to allow for changing circumstances because all you want to do is emphasise what you interpret as negative towards the club.
If you just go with the well expressed views from a small group of Town fans that the rugby club are just a bunch of liars that are skint, all proved by your biased good work you can't go wrong.
I can't accept anything you say as I know why you are really saying it.
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| Quote gizempo="gizempo"I find the amount of animosity between the 2 clubs and sets of supporters totally bizarre. Neither club can be proud of their financial matters over recent years, but to keep looking back is pointless.
Personally I just don’t get it! We have 2 clubs who play in different sports so they don’t directly compete with each other and therefore in that regard are not a threat to each other. They both represent the same town, and use the town’s name. They both play in the same colours at the same venue and both are not getting enough people through the turnstiles. History is history, I just can’t believe in this modern day the clubs are not doing more to work with each other, economise, be more efficient, e.g. one marketing team, shared promotional and fundraising events, explore joint sponsorship deals, a shared retail outlet. And maybe more clout to get the council or stadium owners to provide facilities fit for both teams.
Instead, we have the petty minded point scoring against each other, fans obsessed with the other club more than their own teams performance, wanting the other club to fail (when in fact both really need the other to succeed).'"
Exactly. The history of BOTH clubs is well known but the difference is one set ( a minority that claim to speak for everyone else) always takes the offensive and goes on the attack leaving no stone unturned while they are doing it and at the same time being less than perfect themselves.
Some choose to ignore it others think why the hell should we just sit and listen to it without a response.
You won't see logic or sense form obsession and extremism and in reality no points are being scored by anyone.
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| It seems the council were so concerned that they did not even manage to have one meeting with the club to discuss the issue.
As a Fax fan this is something I am not pleased about but it seems the BOD had some issues to raise.
Hopefully it will all see a reduction in the amount Fax pay as it will kick a whole hornets nest if Town are made to pay more.
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| Quote Norman Bates="Norman Bates"It seems the council were so concerned that they did not even manage to have one meeting with the club to discuss the issue.
As a Fax fan this is something I am not pleased about but it seems the BOD had some issues to raise.
Hopefully it will all see a reduction in the amount Fax pay as it will kick a whole hornets nest if Town are made to pay more.'"
But as Bubba feasibilty study points out neither of us pay enough so I would probably think the Councilors will be glad to have the excuse to put Towns rent up . Is`nt there an old saying about hornets nests ?
Poke your nose into a hornets nest and you will come out with more than a snoutfull of honey.
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| Quote Danger_mouse="Danger_mouse"Faxcar, I'm sorry that it has taken me so long to post this but it came up in a discussion with Nat where he said I'd "filled in the blanks with pure speculation and conjecture", therefore I considered it important. Unfortunately for us CMBC have 20 working days to respond, meaning there has been this delay. You'll be pleased to hear I've not submitted any FOIs since the arrears have been paid; I'm just tidying up loose ends as I feel that is the decent thing to do.
Just for clarity though, CMBC can't lie in an FOI response, so the whole rent dispute issue only appeared after 19th November, so if it is long running no-one at the club bothered to tell the council in an official capacity. Indeed, as the council have a written promise to pay the entire amount, with no amount disputed, suggests they may be on quite strong legal grounds when it comes to collecting the arrears.
Again, this is why Town fans were sceptical of Reactiv's purchase of the ground when all we had to go on was a promise of 'trust me'. Your directors broke a written and verbal promise to pay and didn't have the decency to contact CMBC to say they'd miss the deadline. Replace CMBC witha mortgage company and both clubs would have been out on their ears.'"
What about the one on the 24th February ? That will be out to you on or by the 25th of March.
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| Quote gizempo="gizempo"I find the amount of animosity between the 2 clubs and sets of supporters totally bizarre. Neither club can be proud of their financial matters over recent years, but to keep looking back is pointless.
Personally I just don’t get it! We have 2 clubs who play in different sports so they don’t directly compete with each other and therefore in that regard are not a threat to each other. They both represent the same town, and use the town’s name. They both play in the same colours at the same venue and both are not getting enough people through the turnstiles. History is history, I just can’t believe in this modern day the clubs are not doing more to work with each other, economise, be more efficient, e.g. one marketing team, shared promotional and fundraising events, explore joint sponsorship deals, a shared retail outlet. And maybe more clout to get the council or stadium owners to provide facilities fit for both teams.
Instead, we have the petty minded point scoring against each other, fans obsessed with the other club more than their own teams performance, wanting the other club to fail (when in fact both really need the other to succeed).'"
best post I've seen in a few months on either forum
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| Quote Cassandra="Cassandra"What about the one on the 24th February ? That will be out to you on or by the 25th of March.'"
I placed that before I knew the arrears had been paid, and again inspired by a post Nat had made. It asks how much rent has been paid by BOTH clubs since 2011. But obviously I'm only interested in finding a stick to beat Fax with. Of course, if you're fed up with me I can always cancel the request, or not post the results when the answer is published.
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| Quote Danger_mouse="Danger_mouse"I placed that before I knew the arrears had been paid, and again inspired by a post Nat had made. It asks how much rent has been paid by BOTH clubs since 2011. But obviously I'm only interested in finding a stick to beat Fax with. Of course, if you're fed up with me I can always cancel the request, or not post the results when the answer is published.'"
So how much have both clubs paid since 2011 Mr Dangermouse?
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