Such a pub team they've been on TV a lot more than we have over the last 10 years.

I'll tell you why Town fans are so interested in this - TA tried to buy the Shay and he and others (one councillor in particular) justified it by saying the stadium could not continue to make a 6-figure loss every year. Well, truth is now out that it doesn't lose a 6-figure sum every year, and much of the losses are down to the rugby not paying their rent. Regardless of how much either club is meant to pay, Fax have a contract and have wilfully broken it.

And I suppose many Town supporters do see the Shay as their spiritual home, so for them, to see TA and others say the annual deficit is reason enough for the council to sell, when it is TA's rugby club that's responsible for some of that deficit. Yeah, I think I'd be ed off in their shoes as well.

No you're not. Before accusing anyone else of lying - look closer to home. Not that it matters for being on here. Unlike the Wendyball forum, the fans of FCHT are free to post on here. Just a shame that you feel the need to closet yourself as a rugby fan. Same goes for your other footy friend on here.

Soccer is a boring sport and would not watch it no matter who plays. As for the Pubteam , I couldnt care less who they play or what they do- including paying the rent or whatever. Whatever that club does, is up to them. I dont feel the need to go causing trouble on their forum though, nor go around making things up and harrassing people connected with the club.

Best way 2 deal with right wing loonies is ignore them. One of them is daft enough 2 b a suicide bomber soon so he he will get a place in paradise with 70 pommegranets.

They do no realise when they have gone there is nothing left.

Apologies is pomeggranettes spelt wrong ?

I'll be watching the footy. It's Halifax. I'll be wishing them well.

The pubteam did once used to own The Shay, but sold it to the Council many years ago when it was once again short of cash. The Pubteam are as much squatters as Fax are. The Shay is used sadly by less than 1% of the population of Calderdale regularly and costs a fortune to run and does lose money. Maybe if the Pubteam payed more rent money than the peanuts it pays now, then that would help. The Shay is in need of redevelopment, something the council cant afford to do properly. Instead of vexing anger at Fax and Mr Abbott and the Council, the Pubteam fans should look closer to home and ask why the Pubteam was not so concerned about a potential sale and did next to nothing. Why are the Pubteam still paying so little rent that when paying a higher rent like Fax would help maybe pay for proper drainage etc.

Spiritual home is all it is. The Shay is concrete and steel around a pitch. Thrum Hall is our spiritual home. But it no longer exists and Fax still survives, even if playing down at the Shay, which lacks the atmosphere of the old Thrum Hall had. Too much emotion is tied to this Spiritual home thing. A club is more than just about its spiritual home or the past. The Shay was not going to be sold and as owners, the Council have the right to look at a bid should somebody want to buy the Shay and dont need to inform anybody. Mr Abbott wanted to keep sport at The Shay and in his opinion help both clubs. Just because small minded people who follow the Pubteam are not happy, does not mean they have to create lies and a hate campaign against Fax, Mr Abbott or the Council. The Hysteria was way over the top. And what did the Pubteam itself actually do about it? If it was so concerned, it would have done more. The actions of the likes of Gavin Butler and his crew were not needed, nor was the lies and hate campaign that started on the Shaymen.net forum.

Halifax Town have never owned the Shay. Why do you keep coming out with this nonsense? The soccer club have only ever been tenants of the council from day one. They sub-let to the speedway for a while and sold the long-term lease back to the council in exchange for a bail out in the 1980's. They then got another lease and gave this up when the first stadium company was created.

Neither, I suppose, were those of HTST and Fax Trust back in 2006 then?

Well piecing together some of the comments form Town Fans is bizarre to say the least.

If there was never any deal in place why all the fuss about a single A4 piece of paper??

The councillors finally saw the light, just how long had they been blinded by two paragraphs on an A4.

The Shay supposedly being up for sale and it's irrelevant for the BOD one of the sitting tennants to comment on it.

Rugby fans being accused of insanity by a Town fan who says others lie all the while claiming to be a rugby fan, get your head round that lot.

Really? I would have thought it were the other way round to be honest but I dont really follow football but would be interested in what facts are.

I were at the meeting too and remember just about what he said. Do you know for a fact that it his TA`s company that is running the payday loan company? Can you say for sure that it is and provide the evidence? I get that the company is listed as running from Reactivs address but like anything in business that could easily be office space that is let out by his company.

I would be very interested in the answers to these questions because I would also be worried if in fact TA did turn out to have companies that did this after strongly denying it.