TA said he wasn't involved in any pay-day loan companies. FACT: He's a director of several.

MS said he knew someone had bid to buy the Shay but didn't know who. FACT: MS and TA talk.

One of the FOI requests said the rugby club agreed to pay in full by 31/12/13. FACT: They didn't.

Several people who claim to know the catering company's owner have separately claimed that Fax owe them 5-figures. RUMOUR.

The denial around here is extreme.

Faxcar, I won't repeat all your post to saves space, but, basically well put.
As I have been saying for a while it's a topic going nowhere, it has been done to death off thread on three other topics, let's wait and see. We don't have the answers and I agree it's very emotive, but I'm confident it is being dealt with.
Peace.

I'm happy to wait and see also, it's not like we have much choice I suppose. But it's fair to say I'm worried, if not the Shay then where? Odsal? Do me a favour. I hope this is sorted soon.

Can anyone offer an opinion as to what sort of dispute
with the council could justify the action of not paying £63k
rent over a 16 month period ?

Anything said has likely been said before and mostly guess work based on all the spin that has being going on with a few smatterings of so called factual information mixed in.

We're guessing again that it involves a dispute which may be part of it and maybe not.

A few of the things supposedly been involved.

Some rent was owed for before the talk of buying the Shay came to light.

The talks included the rent being absorbed into any purchasing agreement.

Not too long ago the deal for the Shay was taken from the table at least in the short term.

Both parties went of to give more consideration to the potential sale.

Could the deal be back on again after due process with similar terms for the rent included.
Now that would explain the silence and will get a certain section going again



Total speculation but the above was part of the original plan so is feasible.

Other than that, again we are either skint and can't pay it.

We are not skint and won't pay it.

In either case.

To continue playing from the Shay or anywhere else we will have to pay it.

Thanks,so only really the Shay potential sale could justify our actions.
I'm trying to be positive but surely the possible Shay purchase came long
after arrears had already built up ?

When does Gavin's daft Asset of Community Value (ACV) run out? Is it six months from the date of his application or six months from the date Calderdale Council decide to sell?

It's six months after the council decide to sell.

They did but it is the only connection with the former and current situation.

I know you are concerned and that unlike some others is why the question is being asked.

Those who can answer it aren't doing so for whatever reason.

They are the only ones who can.

There is no point in beating ourselves up over something we don't really know about or can do anything about.

At times like this I go back to core beliefs and values.

Fax almost had a perfect storm of a bad year last season regarding games and crowds, early cup exits etc.
They didn't like it or want it to happen but they prepared for it and took it on the chin.

I just do not believe that the club is in the financial mess some are saying.

I do not believe the current BOD for no reason or any reason will do anything to harm the club.

So the £250k/year figure came from the Courier. And I wonder who gave them that. The FOI shows this figure was absolute ball-cocks yet you choose to believe it rather than the black and white figures given by the council.

The thing is, the club originally wanted to include the rent in the deal to buy the stadium, despite it being the club owing the rent and TA being the one hoping to buy - two separate entities which makes this just plain daft. Furthermore, when the sale didn't happen, the club then agreed to pay in full by 31/12/13.

So if there was any dispute at all, why would they look to pay it off as part of the deal to buy the Shay, and why would they later agree a date by which to pay it in full? There is no dispute, or if there is it's been manufactured recently in order to justify continued non-payment.