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| Clearly the re-introduction of P&R is good news for all of us who believe this is the way forward. But there is still a lot of "devil in the detail" to understand before I will give the new proposals a positive or negative view. Amongst which are allocations of cash, second team structure, TV rights, minimum standards, financial stability etc.
Notwithstanding this I love the prospect that three years after it all starts we could see a Grand final between Hemel Stags and Gloucester. It will not happen, but at last everyone can dream. That is what sport should be about.
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Quote griff1998="griff1998"Plenty in this thread ....
www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... d-threads/
Pencil, Robin, Terry etc etc.
Baffled how you can see this as "keeping a split between Fev and Fax fans". It's got absolutely nothing to do with it. Surprised at you having the chip on the shoulder.
Yeah - I read the thread you quoted. Posts by a lot of people starting to think about it.'"
There are a significant number posts from Fev fans (Westwood, Taylor, Andy, etc. etc.) that are negative on there as well - again I don't see how this is celebrating. If you mean there is a lot of general happiness across all clubs in the championship that P&R is returning then I could see that (but not just Fev fans).
As for chip on shoulder, why is it that you feel the necessity to have a “pop” at Fev fans by saying "The penny's still not dropped at Fev. They're still celebrating", when there are as many members of other clubs that are bestowing the virtues of P&R in particular and to a lesser extent 2x12 into 3x8 within that same thread and other treads. By posting like this in a way that appears to be an anti-Fev on a Fax forum it would appear that you wish to ride on what you believe is anti-Fev sentiment within this forum (hence my question about “keeping a split between Fev and Fax fans”).
I suspect you know if you were to post “The penny's still not dropped in Fax. You’re still celebrating" (and there are a number of happy Fax fans on that same thread which you highlight that are happy that P&R is returning) you would get slated on here about demeaning Fax fans and rightly so. Just makes it look like you’re jealous of Fev (and yes I know you have no need to be).
In truth I know you have the Rugby League in your heart and would like to see the whole prosper (and Sheffield in particular), but maybe you should think about some of your posts before pressing the enter key.
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Quote griff1998="griff1998"Plenty in this thread ....
www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... d-threads/
Pencil, Robin, Terry etc etc.
Baffled how you can see this as "keeping a split between Fev and Fax fans". It's got absolutely nothing to do with it. Surprised at you having the chip on the shoulder.
Yeah - I read the thread you quoted. Posts by a lot of people starting to think about it.'"
There are a significant number posts from Fev fans (Westwood, Taylor, Andy, etc. etc.) that are negative on there as well - again I don't see how this is celebrating. If you mean there is a lot of general happiness across all clubs in the championship that P&R is returning then I could see that (but not just Fev fans).
As for chip on shoulder, why is it that you feel the necessity to have a “pop” at Fev fans by saying "The penny's still not dropped at Fev. They're still celebrating", when there are as many members of other clubs that are bestowing the virtues of P&R in particular and to a lesser extent 2x12 into 3x8 within that same thread and other treads. By posting like this in a way that appears to be an anti-Fev on a Fax forum it would appear that you wish to ride on what you believe is anti-Fev sentiment within this forum (hence my question about “keeping a split between Fev and Fax fans”).
I suspect you know if you were to post “The penny's still not dropped in Fax. You’re still celebrating" (and there are a number of happy Fax fans on that same thread which you highlight that are happy that P&R is returning) you would get slated on here about demeaning Fax fans and rightly so. Just makes it look like you’re jealous of Fev (and yes I know you have no need to be).
In truth I know you have the Rugby League in your heart and would like to see the whole prosper (and Sheffield in particular), but maybe you should think about some of your posts before pressing the enter key.
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| Quote FevGrinder="FevGrinder"There are a significant number posts from Fev fans (Westwood, Taylor, Andy, etc. etc.) that are negative on there as well - again I don't see how this is celebrating. If you mean there is a lot of general happiness across all clubs in the championship that P&R is returning then I could see that (but not just Fev fans).
As for chip on shoulder, why is it that you feel the necessity to have a “pop” at Fev fans by saying "The penny's still not dropped at Fev. They're still celebrating", when there are as many members of other clubs that are bestowing the virtues of P&R in particular and to a lesser extent 2x12 into 3x8 within that same thread and other treads. By posting like this in a way that appears to be an anti-Fev on a Fax forum it would appear that you wish to ride on what you believe is anti-Fev sentiment within this forum (hence my question about “keeping a split between Fev and Fax fans”).
I suspect you know if you were to post “The penny's still not dropped in Fax. You’re still celebrating" (and there are a number of happy Fax fans on that same thread which you highlight that are happy that P&R is returning) you would get slated on here about demeaning Fax fans and rightly so. Just makes it look like you’re jealous of Fev (and yes I know you have no need to be).
In truth I know you have the Rugby League in your heart and would like to see the whole prosper (and Sheffield in particular), but maybe you should think about some of your posts before pressing the enter key.'"
If you see it that way, Dave - fine.
I'm just irritated by the widespread celebrations to "a route to $uperleague" which seems to me to be a more difficult one than we had before.
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"You would have thought the BOD at clubs in the running for promotion will be fully aware of what they have to do both on and off the field.
It would be lunacy to put all their efforts into on the field performance only to realise or be told after the event that their ground wasn't big enough or they didn't have enough toilets or seats etc.
Also the RFL need to be realistic in what is achievable for the clubs as the game stands at the moment when they decide upon the criteria.'"
Money share-out, minimum standards - still to be decided yet. That's the madness of it.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"If you see it that way, Dave - fine.
I'm just irritated by the widespread celebrations to "a route to $uperleague" which seems to me to be a more difficult one than we had before.'"
Except this way the destiny isn't in the hands of KPMG "specialists". 
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Except this way the destiny isn't in the hands of KPMG "specialists".
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Isn't it ? You know that for sure ? 
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"Money share-out, minimum standards - still to be decided yet. That's the madness of it.'"
To honest though it was only last Friday when it got voted through on a 7 to 6 for and against vote with one abstention, as you know up untill then everything was on hold, it was hardly possible or even practicle to plan for or look at anything else until the vote had taken place.
The powers that be and all the clubs know that the things you have mentioned and a good few more will need to be considered and it the coming months they will be decided upon.
Not a week has gone by yet so give it time.
The fact is that there is no perfect solution.
Happier, yes, more hopefull yes but I wouldn't call it celibrating.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"Isn't it ? You know that for sure ?
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Yes. Licensing is gone. I know you don't like it but tough cack. Licensing didn't work - time to try something else.
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| Quiet on here tonight, are you all watching Utd?
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| Quote Two Shay="Two Shay"Quiet on here tonight, are you all watching Utd?'"
Utd?
Is that a television show?

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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"There are six games involving the four Championship clubs.
If four clubs get two each at home, that's eight home teams in those six games.
Conversely, if they only play one away, that's only four away teams in the six games.
Sorry mate, when you start working it out, it doesn't compute.'"
Yes you're right 2 teams out of 1 group ( Championship ) would play 3 SL clubs at home, and 2 teams out of group 2 ( SL ) would play just 1 Championship club away from home
Tricky stuff 
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