Bang on with this one game too many rubbish, we've hardly played more games than Sheffield. We were just exposed today by a far better, more entertaining outfit who knew how to attack and defend neither which we have got right bar a handful of games. We've been involved in so many dreadful games i've lost count and our attacking play needs a whole revamp, its slow, one paced and generally dull and our defence today was nothing short of disgraceful and i hope they know they've let a lot of people down today we at least deserve commitment and that was lacking in abundance

I'd look at a winger to replace Reittie who is a joke of a player at times offers nothing only making yards in 'easy' games and never looks like scoring a try. A couple of centres who have a bit of pace and power, always preffered Paterson on the wing and Tyrer doesn't really cut it for me as a top class centre. Heaton is probably too slow for the backs really

The half backs need seriously looking at handforth is just not good enough for me especially at stand off, bang average at controlling a game and doesn't create tries how many times have we seen a centre or winger get put away ala Holroyd or Branighan. We never have a move of any sort and he can't use his line to save his life but he gets away with it being by doing one or two good things per game which blind many fans to his deficiencies. Thackery is a support player and unfortunately the best part of his game is his kick chase

The forwards have been half decent; Ambler and Barlow are good players at this level and Divorty has been impressive. Ashall fell away dramatically and Robinson is abit of a flat track bully at times making yards in easier games while falling away in tough game, but all have shown they are good enough at times. Manning has been far and away most impressive for me

We'll miss Penky hugely as again he's been our only real creative outlet at times with Gannon been consistent once more. I'd look at releasing Bowman as he seems to be going nowhere with us, needs to play some regular games in a regular position but as a half back he isn't creative enough (probably not even near a danny jones level player which is saying something) and Casey has shown up half decent in last few weeks at second row before today but has had a poor season on the whole.

Overall would be looking at:

1 or 2 centres
A winger
2 half Backs
1 hooker
1 or 2 Prop/Second Rows

I agree with a lot of what you say, especially concerning our inability to play for 80mins this year and our product on the field which at times I have found boring to watch. I am not 100 convinced about KH myself yet HOWEVER I do think he should not be judged on just this year. With a squad of equal capability we were very poor last year under Calland, so improvements have been made.

There have been a number of changes in playing staff, coaching techniques etc and KH is much more of a disciplinarian too. The first year is always difficult during transition and this needs taking into account. This off season is probably KH's most important as he has some pretty big shoes to fill in terms of Penky and Leigh potentially have stolen a march on us with their squad looking good for next year already.

John Kear is up there as one of the best coaches in the game and he hasn't improved Batley this year really in terms of position etc.

Fev are the bench mark to achieve and unless we step up next year we run the risk of getting left behind unless we challenge in terms of consistency on the field week in week out. Leigh have quickly improved and the others in the chasing pack are in and around where we are.

Having supported Fax for almost 30 years I feel that yesterdays performance was one, if not, the worst 80 mins I have witnessed from any Fax Team. It was a disgraceful embarrasing display seen by all Premier Sports viewers. No ideas, with a few exceptions no commitment, by 60 mins we had thrown in the towel allowing Sheffield to score at will. Heaton wasn't fit and only lasted 15 mins, where was Chandler etc. The style between the two coaches was there for all to see. Yes we have won the NRC, but have scraped too many games we should have won with ease. Injuries have not helped but that does not excuse yesterdays debacle.

agree 100%

we need to sign big to replace Penky.

You need to sign a decent half back IMO as I belive Handforth would go well at 9 for you next season

I've said on another thread we should get someone like Ryan Hampshire on a season long loan from Wigan. This kid is 18 and absolute dynamite. I think he'd ignite The Championship, he's a fantastic little half back!