He's from Widnes, which is actually the Dark, Murky and Probably Radioactive Side.

Two heads are better than one.

Karl says.

“But defensively I thought we were very, very poor and they took every chance they had.

“Some of our big guys need to look at themselves because there were really soft efforts defensively.”

No mention of the ref.

Again I keep harping on, its not that ref`s favour one team its quite simply that they are inconsistent with their decisions. I mean you only have to look at a number of incidents that show the ref had a terrible game. The two knock ons on our line by Leigh that lead to their try, the Patterson ball steal, when the ball comes out like that its pretty obvious its been reefed, the White try which imo was one of the worst decisions ive seen all year. Theres no way Leigh had crossed the advantage line. The one where we were offside from a kick and the Leigh player knocked on, I watched our players run and there was only the guys in the middle offside and they wernt within the ten and lets not mention getting Leigh offside from a drop out.

The holding downs were terrible as well and thats very frustrating because we saw when we got a quick play the ball we were all over them. I guess in that aspect he was consistent because in a game where there probably should have been 20 or so penalties for holding down we were lucky if there were 2.

He`s clearly not good enough for SL and on that showing Im not sure why we should put up with him either.