Even with 12 men they would have taken the game away from us in the final 20 mins !!!!!!!

Totally agree with all above.Why bring Widdop all the way from Aus to play for 40 mins tops and then play him out of position?Doesn't it say something about rugby in this country when they bring three young players(not including Ellis in this)who play in the NRL over and,with the exception of Widdop,they get into the team above players playing here.Went to final last night not holding out much hope for England and was proved right,we play blokes who are too old,too slow,can't change the game plan when it is going wrong and who don't seem to gel because they play against each other week in week out.The Aussies manage to have more than one game plan,they have players who can play 80 mins,forwards who go forwards and are led round the field with confidence and skill.Australia will miss Lockyer for a very short time before a good,enthusiastic young player steps into his boots and leads them around the field.England need a coach who can coach,players who can lead and are imaginative,players who can change the plan when it isn't working and forwards who can play with passion,speed and for more than 20 mins stretches before we have any chance of consistently beating the Aussies or the Kiwis.

In defence of Tomkins he had zero protection. But that comes down to the fact the Aussies controlled the game and got to the kick on the front foot with no pressure on the kicker.

A big problem with England is that club differences are not put to one side by both players and supporters. The Aussies when they put that shirt on are a unit, England aren't.

Good point, at the England v Exiles game at Headingley all the Whino's booed San Tomkins and applauded when he got injured.
Jamie Peacock to his credit, slated the Whino "fans"

They were saying on Sky sports news today that the England RFU want Sam Tomkins to appear for the Barbarians next weekend. I wonder if they realise it's his brother they've just cashed in on LOL