Quote: lee the saint "the second time he got concussion against fev was a freak accident and it was the fev second rows elbow he hit and it ripped his lip to bits, straight through and upto his nostrel it was a shocker, and left him in plastic surgery getting 20+sticthes,thats not an annoying knack its called a raised elbow or and accident'"
Was it not a collision with Craven trying to stop a try? And the first was Logan Tomkins at POR so he must have annoyed the teenagers in the group