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Whilst I understand your frustration , and even as a Cas fan , I do think you are being a little harsh on Wakey under the circumstances . Yes , you are absolutely correct that they went into administration , but they were able to do so confident in the knowledge that it wouldn't prevent them from applying for a super league franchise , as this rule had been ' wavered ' but not because of Wakey , but because of the Crusaders . When you look at the situation with the ground you are , again , absolutely correct in stating that Wakey have failed to fulfill their promise of a new stadium ( as have Cas at the moment to be fair ) , but there seems no doubt on here or on any of the other forums that Halifax ground is , at the moment , better than those of Wakey and Cas , and I would agree , but this has also been noted by the RFL , who will have awarded a point on the Fax application under stadium , but not under the Wakey or Cas application and , as has been stated on numerous occasions , this was not the only criteria of a super league franchise , and on all other points Wakey will have outscored you . Now , once again I don't doubt that you could have done much more on these fronts with the cash that SL clubs have had , and the security of 3 years in the top flight , had you been in their position , but the fact remains that you were not , however harsh that seems . Your main chance of a SL place was when the Championship applications were submitted , but unfortunately you came up against a very strong application from Widnes , there was absolutely no obligation from the RFL to promote a second championship side , and they did praise your application and actually gave you a second chance , but this may have turned out to be as protection for themselves in case , as has happened , a SL team was unable to continue , and they could save their own embarassment by promoting you . Rest assured that if a further SL team withdraws / Folds , you will be a shue in to fill their place , and rightly so . To be fair to Wakey their comminity work has merited a mention by the RFL to such an extent that they want other SL clubs to follow Wakeys example
In summary , and in a strange kind of way , it isn't Wakey that you should be angry at , it is the Crusaders . Had they not gone into administration in the first place , or having gone into administration , had they then decided to remove themselves from SL and not wait until yesterday , then you would also have been a SL club next year , as the RFL would definitely not have ' wavered ' the administration rule for Wakey ( or any other Sl club apart from expansion teams or Leeds , Wigan , Saints , Wire , Hull ) and Wakey wouldn't have been able to apply for a franchise this time around , Crusaders would have been out and Widnes and Fax ( the best 2 championship applications ) would have been in SL from 2012 .

Sorry if this upsets , and I know feelings are running high at the moment , and understandably so , but it isn't really Wakey's fault , they have , under the current stipulations of the RFL met with the requirements to be awarded a franchise for the next 3 years

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Quote: dboy "No, it really isn't, is it?

Wakefield area (i.e. inc. Cas), pretty much dominate schools RL. For example, Outwood are about to win the National schools cup for a record 3rd year on the trot for a single age group.

I'm sure the Calderdale amateur clubs win everything...in Calderdale.'"


Yes a very feeble argument - See Cardinal Newman from Warrington - 5 years I believe.

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Fact is that even with an old ground in need of work, and going into administration wakefield were still deemed to have a much better application otherwise Halifax would have been in......simples.

I dont think any halifax fans actually expected to get in really.
Would there have been the same reaction if crusaders were in and wakey out ?

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Quote: quinny "Fact is that even with an old ground in need of work, and going into administration wakefield were still deemed to have a much better application otherwise Halifax would have been in......simples.

I dont think any halifax fans actually expected to get in really.
Would there have been the same reaction if crusaders were in and wakey out ?'"


they didnt fulfil there promices from last time did they??? NO

Did we??? Yes

the only things they do better with are down to the Sky money they get. they are not that well supported, we got more in than they did when we were both in Super League apart from the awful season.

so explain how was there bid better????

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Quote: Fax Missionary "To be frank taffy your timing is crap, as I really dont give a rats ass for all the speculation and justfiying of the rfl decision to give Wakey a license. All who can see and read can spot the huge gaping holes in their bid and the 'flexible rules' the rfl apply. Not saying ours was perfect, but we did what was asked of us. Now i'm not bitter towards Wakey or any other club, but give us time to grieve at rfl injustices before coming on here with this type of sheeite.'"



sorry if i offended missionary , not my intention , just my view on some harsh but seemingly unmerited criticism of Wakey . I am quite open about my support of Cas and so i have no 'foot' in the wakey camp , and i understand your frustration , we felt the same when we were relegated under p&r system , despite finishing above Catalan , and i guess with this in mind maybe I shouldn't have posted as you are all bound to feel upset , and for that I genuinely apologise , and I can understand your annoyance with RFL

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Quote: rlw "i only have detailed knowledge of one age group, as it is a group i regularly watch.
yorkshire champions u16 siddal
yorkshire champions u18 siddal
national cup semi final u16 king cross park (missed out on a last play try)
national school champs last 2 years brooksbank u15s ( in final again this year)
national school final this year brooksbank year 7s.
every single one of these players is from halifax.
players snapped up by bradford bulls in u16s this year alone- 6 (of which i know)
halifax players playing for england at u16s- 4, one of which captained the team.
many more players have signed at other teams, mainly from siddal and king cross park amateur clubs, siddal being arguably the best amateur team in the country(open age)

do not tell me that any area in the country produces better rl talent year after year than halifax.'"




Great post. Some people can quite ignore true fact even when it's put in front of them. The true part about all of this is, a lot of us do get out there at grass roots and actually watch games, we'll be able to do it all year round in the very near future too.

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