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Quote: marillion man "Get a grip most of you with your negatives !
I've said all along, not with this current coach, but with every coach I've ever known, supported or played for, it's the players who are at fault, most of you will never understand that because you won't have played the game. If Calland has come out & said it in the press, then you better believe it because we have a coach who has had the players & staff back him through a lot of troubled times at our club. He knows which players are letting him down & don't forget too quickly that Frank, Patto & Banno have all played reserve rugby already this season. At least we have a reserve team for these "lazy" players to wallow in, a luxury we haven't had for a few years, so I hope the supporters of our club will see by team selections who he means when the suffer the embarrassment of having to take a drop into the "stiffs".
I reckon we should get off Callands back, some people have very short memories, I bet some of his critics were kissing his booty & patting him on the back after last season's GF great escape, a game of rugby that was won by who ? THE PLAYERS.'"
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Quote: pinballwizzard "So who are the lazy players?
Let's touch on that which has so far been skirted around. Let's start a witchunt'"

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Quote: marillion man "Get a grip most of you with your negatives !
I've said all along, not with this current coach, but with every coach I've ever known, supported or played for, it's the players who are at fault, most of you will never understand that because you won't have played the game. If Calland has come out & said it in the press, then you better believe it because we have a coach who has had the players & staff back him through a lot of troubled times at our club. He knows which players are letting him down & don't forget too quickly that Frank, Patto & Banno have all played reserve rugby already this season. At least we have a reserve team for these "lazy" players to wallow in, a luxury we haven't had for a few years, so I hope the supporters of our club will see by team selections who he means when the suffer the embarrassment of having to take a drop into the "stiffs".
I reckon we should get off Callands back, some people have very short memories, I bet some of his critics were kissing his booty & patting him on the back after last season's GF great escape, a game of rugby that was won by who ? THE PLAYERS.'"


What if you have played the game and still think the coach is partly to blame? icon_biggrin.gif

Looks to me that whatever defensive pattern the coach is trying to get the players to go with some of them just dont get it. If thats the case then they need to change the pattern or bring players in that can work as he wants to. This isnt a new thing this season though. Unfortunatley with the drop in the calibre of players this season the problem becomes more obvious.

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Quote: marillion man "Get a grip most of you with your negatives !
I've said all along, not with this current coach, but with every coach I've ever known, supported or played for, it's the players who are at fault, most of you will never understand that because you won't have played the game. If Calland has come out & said it in the press, then you better believe it because we have a coach who has had the players & staff back him through a lot of troubled times at our club. He knows which players are letting him down & don't forget too quickly that Frank, Patto & Banno have all played reserve rugby already this season. At least we have a reserve team for these "lazy" players to wallow in, a luxury we haven't had for a few years, so I hope the supporters of our club will see by team selections who he means when the suffer the embarrassment of having to take a drop into the "stiffs".
I reckon we should get off Callands back, some people have very short memories, I bet some of his critics were kissing his booty & patting him on the back after last season's GF great escape, a game of rugby that was won by who ? THE PLAYERS.'"


BOTH players and Coach are responsible. The Coach is responsible for the players having the knowledge, the right game plan and fitness. The Coach is responsible for picking the best team he has. The Coach is responsible in also saying what players he wants signing and also which coaching staff he has to help him. The Coach is responsible that his team gives 100%. At the moment the Coach is not doing a good job as we are failing in a number of areas like results, performances and commitment.
The players are responsible to go outthere and atleast give 100% and do the basics right. For some reason they are not doing things what the coach expects. You told me a story about Matt and the players from last year when we metup last week. And that for me summed it up. Is matt the boss or is he a good friend who has a few beers with the players? And why do the players keep saying they are behind Matt yet do little in actions in games to show they are behind him? I feel that Matt is too nice and Halifax is a drinking club where its very relaxed. Thats great when you do well and you have quality players but when things are hard like now maybe this is when the problems are magnified.
When you look at the Quality of player Fax have had under Matt Calland almost all have either payed in the NRL, SL, or played Internationally. These are levels way higher than the Championship. The players Fax have had there should be a minimum of top 3 Finish to be honest. This year despite the playing squad not being as strong as last year there is enough Quality and Experience to not have lost 5 games and averaging over 30 points being put past us. Maybe too many players are too friendly with Matt and are in the comfort zone. I maybe wrong about Matt Calland but I do know that I am right when there needs to be changes not just with Players but how the whole Playing System works. Why so many Ex Players as Back room staff? Why no Old Heads on the coaching Staff? Why have we never sorted the problem of defence and discipline out?

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TBH, I'm past caring whose fault it is. It's unfathomable how we can go from being a Championship winning team to one that is practically propping up the league. There are people that need to take a bloody good look at themselves and figure out a) whether they are good enough at what they are being paid to do, b) do they want to be at Halifax RLFC, and c) whether they can man-up to the job ahead of them. I don't know who they are, and I don't care. What IS apparent, though, is that those that take to the field in our colours are not all pulling in the same direction. Time to put up, or go. Don't hang around waiting for a pay-off; put in a transfer request or quit. I may be right or wrong in what I type, but this is how I honestly feel at this moment in time. Oh, and also apathy.

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Quote: Tortured Soul "TBH, I'm past caring whose fault it is. It's unfathomable how we can go from being a Championship winning team to one that is practically propping up the league. There are people that need to take a bloody good look at themselves and figure out a) whether they are good enough at what they are being paid to do, b) do they want to be at Halifax RLFC, and c) whether they can man-up to the job ahead of them. I don't know who they are, and I don't care. What IS apparent, though, is that those that take to the field in our colours are not all pulling in the same direction. Time to put up, or go. Don't hang around waiting for a pay-off; put in a transfer request or quit. I may be right or wrong in what I type, but this is how I honestly feel at this moment in time. Oh, and also apathy.

Rant over.'"



Good rant. It's time for every one at the club, from the office right down to the players to, shape up or ship out.

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