FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Halifax Panthers > What's the point?
52 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Star1No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2011Mar 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I am becoming increasingly concerned at the divisive comments which are appearing on the message boards of the football and rugby league communities who are associated with The Shay. I am aware that neither is the official forum of either Halifax Town or Halifax RLFC however neither club can ignore the vitriol that is being expressed by people representing both sides of the ‘divide’.

As far as I am concerned both the clubs and the supporters should realise that they are in the fortunate position of having clubs with potential (and it is not everyone who can say that) and that the rightful place for the clubs is either Super League or the Football league. I am encouraged that those responsible for the governance of both clubs are moving in the right direction.

The fact that there are the differences between elements of both sets of supporters places a responsibility on the supporters organisations of both clubs (Fax Trust, HT Supporters Club, HTST) to show leadership and to ensure that the supporters of both clubs work together. There will always be differences of opinion between the supporters of the various codes, but there is no need for people to speak disparagingly of other supporters interests. At these times of economic and financial pressures, for many people, an involvement in sport as either a player or spectator is an outlet which enables people to take their minds of the problems of today and, with their club, to aspire to the success which I believe is within their grasp.

I believe that the clubs have a responsibility too, and they cannot ignore the responsibilities which are placed on them. Above all they should ensure that there is regular contact between them and their supporters, and then ensure that there are meetings with the other club and the Council to ensure that every parties issues are recognised. This forum should also ensure that the requirements of all three parties are considered in an open and transparent forum of the three working together.

The Council also have a joint and separate responsibility in their management of the facility that is consistent and decisive; I can tell you from bitter experience that you cannot win at certain times, but you must make your decisions based on the facts as you see them.

I am aware that in my time working for The Shay Stadium Trust I received criticism from both clubs and on both Message Boards, (but nobody is perfect). What can’t be denied however is with the Independents, Supporters and Clubs working together on the Board of SST, we achieved our aim of securing completion of the East Stand.

The clubs and supporters achieve more when working together and surely now is the time to ignore issues which get blown up out of all proportion and work for success for clubs and community which is long overdue.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member18789No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2690.jpg
:2690.jpg



icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach5865No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Nov 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10674.jpg
:10674.jpg



Quote: GeoffButler "I am becoming increasingly concerned at the divisive comments which are appearing on the message boards of the football and rugby league communities who are associated with The Shay. I am aware that neither is the official forum of either Halifax Town or Halifax RLFC however neither club can ignore the vitriol that is being expressed by people representing both sides of the ‘divide’.

As far as I am concerned both the clubs and the supporters should realise that they are in the fortunate position of having clubs with potential (and it is not everyone who can say that) and that the rightful place for the clubs is either Super League or the Football league. I am encouraged that those responsible for the governance of both clubs are moving in the right direction.

The fact that there are the differences between elements of both sets of supporters places a responsibility on the supporters organisations of both clubs (Fax Trust, HT Supporters Club, HTST) to show leadership and to ensure that the supporters of both clubs work together. There will always be differences of opinion between the supporters of the various codes, but there is no need for people to speak disparagingly of other supporters interests. At these times of economic and financial pressures, for many people, an involvement in sport as either a player or spectator is an outlet which enables people to take their minds of the problems of today and, with their club, to aspire to the success which I believe is within their grasp.

I believe that the clubs have a responsibility too, and they cannot ignore the responsibilities which are placed on them. Above all they should ensure that there is regular contact between them and their supporters, and then ensure that there are meetings with the other club and the Council to ensure that every parties issues are recognised. This forum should also ensure that the requirements of all three parties are considered in an open and transparent forum of the three working together.

The Council also have a joint and separate responsibility in their management of the facility that is consistent and decisive; I can tell you from bitter experience that you cannot win at certain times, but you must make your decisions based on the facts as you see them.

I am aware that in my time working for The Shay Stadium Trust I received criticism from both clubs and on both Message Boards, (but nobody is perfect). What can’t be denied however is with the Independents, Supporters and Clubs working together on the Board of SST, we achieved our aim of securing completion of the East Stand.

The clubs and supporters achieve more when working together and surely now is the time to ignore issues which get blown up out of all proportion and work for success for clubs and community which is long overdue.'"



Yer all true Geoff we want for fans to get on BUT what I find odd is that this is coming from a man who when running the SST you had to raise any valid question through fans representatives but even then you still got stone walled.

You used to insist on all communications through the 'proper channels' and would not allow anything through messageboards, which I agree with personally, but yet you come on here suggesting what the Trusts should be doing.

This is not the place as you said, so don't come on here telling the Trusts and HTST what to do thanks!


Oh and by the way if this game on Sunday was not a hot topic why has things been changed 3 times then???

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member9009No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3481.jpg
:3481.jpg



GFB...... a010.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner4335
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2022Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
8694.gif
Devon Sharks RL - Torbay's ONLY Rugby League Team [url]www.devonsharksrl.co.uk[/url] Halifax Community RL (IMBRL) - Halifax TAG Rugby League Team Wakefield and Featherstone IMBRL Tournament Cup Champions 2007 Hull IMBRL Tournament Plate Winners 2006 "Metal Ashes of Phoenix Show" every Friday 8-10pm on Phoenix FM 96.7 and via the station web site.:8694.gif

Moderator


I can hear Nat and TS walking down the corridor with their keys ready to lock this!

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member596
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/4651-863FALH-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/4651-863FALH-msnicons.jpg



So we can say the situation is pretty much akin to a property rented out to two seperate tenants. One doesn't like the other as they keep using his butter and has a better looking girlfriend. The other one thinks they they make too much noise and has to be constantly hassled to get their share of the bills.

It's a joke.

I know there has been talk of sharing resources, sharing ideas and sharing a shop. But I think with the kind of slander, stretched facts, repetition of the same old nonsense and just general rugby/foolball differences any sharing of resources would just make things worse.

Its not fair - the rugby lot have more stuff in the shop.
It's not fair - the rugby lot have more trophies on display.
It's not fair - AFC Halifax are hogging the fax machine.
It's not fair blah blah blah blah blah.

Personally I'd love to see a time when the resources are shared properly between the two clubs but history, long memories and general petty mindedness of people on both sides would never allow that to happen.

52 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
52 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.037109375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
54m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
Recent
Planning for next season
Cokey
176
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5639
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
38s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Film game
karetaker
5639
1m
2024
Butcher
5
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
2m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
3m
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
462
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
530
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1271
England's Women Demolish The W..
1093
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1335
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1128
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1393
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1928
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2145
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2384
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1957
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2194
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2659
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2091
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2163