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Quote: billyfax "It certainly was not a double movement. Just because his arm was on the floor doesn't mean his momentum had stopped. He was still moving forward and just placed it down. Perfectly within the rules and was a try. I have no complaints with that.

The only odd decisions today were by the touch judge when he didn't bother looking to see if the man had crossed the touch line and then missing the Hull player touching the kick that went out of play.

However it was just a friendly so to be honest I really don't care.'"


Everybody we know said it was a double movement there was no momentum the ball was grounded before and he thrust his arm forward over the line! Also there was a HKR players legs well in touch during one tackle in the first half which the touch judge didn't flag for, plus Sam grounding the ball over the line then the ref saying he was held up friendly or not Fax deserved to win

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Quote: billyfax "It certainly was not a double movement. Just because his arm was on the floor doesn't mean his momentum had stopped. He was still moving forward and just placed it down. Perfectly within the rules and was a try. I have no complaints with that.

The only odd decisions today were by the touch judge when he didn't bother looking to see if the man had crossed the touch line and then missing the Hull player touching the kick that went out of play.

However it was just a friendly so to be honest I really don't care.'"


The try was double movement as the player had his ball carrying arm touching the floor with a defending player in contact with him.

Quote: billyfax "An instance in which a tackle can be judged to be complete is when the attacking player's ball-carrying arm is touching the ground at the same time that a defending player is in contact with the attacker.'"


Quote: billyfax "Double movement
An illegal movement in the attempt to score a try. An attacking player whose momentum does not allow the ball to reach the try-line or in-goal after their ball-carrying arm touches the ground may not reach out to score if a defender is in contact with them; this is disallowed by interpretation as a "double movement".

However, if the player is in the process of being tackled and the ball has not been grounded before the try line, then they can make a second movement for the score.'"


Both quoted in the rule book at dewsbury.

Quote: billyfax "Second movement
after tackle When an attacking player is tackled within easy reach of the goal line he should be penalised if he makes a second movement to place the ball over the line for a try.'"

Quoted from the RFL website. (and has diagrams)
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watch the highlights in superslow-motion and the player uses his non ball carrying arm for leaver himself forward with the ball after his ball carrying arm is grounded while being in contact with a halifax player.

from my knowlegde of the rules it is a double movement as the tackle is complete.

however as it happend quite fast it was hard for me to spot so its a really hard call and in a competetive game should of been sent to video ref.

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If you are going to quote rules, don't quote just a few of the rules, quote all of the rules. Such asa tackled player’s momentum carries him into the opponents’ in-goal where he grounds the ball even if the ball has first touched the ground in the field of play but provided that when the ball crosses the goal line the player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line.'"


As for the ex referee, what makes you opinion more correct than the referee on the pitch. As a referee you would know what a difficult job it is and how hard it is to make a judgement call within an instant.

I still believe it was a try, as it's my opinion based on what I saw live. I said in the ground it was a try and still believe it to be so now.

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Quote: DewsburyFAX "watch the highlights in superslow-motion and the player uses his non ball carrying arm for leaver himself forward with the ball after his ball carrying arm is grounded while being in contact with a halifax player.

from my knowlegde of the rules it is a double movement as the tackle is complete.

however as it happend quite fast it was hard for me to spot so its a really hard call and in a competetive game should of been sent to video ref.'"


However, if the attacking player still has forward motion and momentum, and if the ball carrying arm is not advanced on purpose to score a try, then a try must be given.

But, in this case, forward motion had clearly stopped, and the player purposely advanced the ball over the try-line after the ball-carrying arm had been grounded in the field of play.

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Quote: billyfax "If you are going to quote rules, don't quote just a few of the rules, quote all of the rules. Such asa tackled player’s momentum carries him into the opponents’ in-goal where he grounds the ball even if the ball has first touched the ground in the field of play but provided that when the ball crosses the goal line the player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line.'"


As for the ex referee, what makes you opinion more correct than the referee on the pitch. As a referee you would know what a difficult job it is and how hard it is to make a judgement call within an instant.

I still believe it was a try, as it's my opinion based on what I saw live. I said in the ground it was a try and still believe it to be so now.'"


Firstly im not a referee, im actually a player but i am doing a reffing course

please refer to my second post where i admitted it is a hard call and state that it was hard for me to see it.
And for the rule you have quoted i did not quote it as it is irrelevent, as i stated the player had lost all momentum, with both arms & ball touching floor, then used his NON ball carrying arm to propel himself forward.

i see your argument and i agree when i watched it live i thought it was a clear cut try but i have since watch the try several times and there is a definate double movement.

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