[iWe aren't talking about a simple one foot jump or leap from a moving train We are talking about a transatlantic flight lasting hours and hours. By your "train' jumping" analogy, I could jump perpendicular from a train moving at 60 mph, hang glide off a mountain top in direction I jumped, then hit the ground going 60 mph in the trains original direction. Thanks for 'clearing' things up though. [/iicon_thumb.gif

Insecurity is proven with your poll suggestion. I'm sure Stan will forgive you.!

Are you and I reading the same forums?

Odd.

[iAre you on the right forum. Amnesia setting in through the angst.[/i

Flex the vex. Ha

Hahaha he's a wounded Zebra at the minute. Better leave him alone.

One of us is making himself look foolish, and it's not me. But your style (example "Hahaha Keep digging your hole"icon_wink.gif is a bit pathetic for a supposed adult involved in an adult discussion. But, you are only showing yourself up. Your choice.

Keep digging. Your broad terms are again blown out the water. If the atmosphere is spinning with the so called planet its travelling with the 1000 mph Eastward spin then as you highlighted above its travelling too at 1000 mph meaning it affects all motion including westward bound flights. You can't have a global atmospheric eastward spin of 1000 mph and it not affect a westward bound flight. The reason flight times are identical both ways is because the Earth is stationary rlExplained thoroughly Hererl You're making a fool of yourself.

You can't have it both ways to suit your argument. Yeah the Earths 1000 mph eastward spin doesn't count on earth. Jargon.

He's awesome My Perspective. One of the best persons to source evidence on perceptions.

It's like having a conversation with people from the middle ages. I'm getting bored now. There's only so much conversation you can have with a brick wall.

Stan, with all seriousness, please go and see a psychiatrist. You're so far from reality, just from what you've written on here, that I'm genuinely concerned. You are way up the scale for Schizotypal personality disorder.

Get yourself checked out, because reinforcing the craziness you come out with on these forums is doing you no good upstairs. Also, because of this, I'll refrain from anymore conversations on these kind of topics from now on as I don't think I'm doing you any favours in the long run.

Don't jump on your high horse either. This isn't an attack on you, it's a genuine post.

My heads fine Mr Zebra. I 'll still forgive you for your cranial last resort insults. Always remember Jesus loves you. Adios.

What an appalling post. well done with that solemn reply. HURGH Atheism.

You reveal a deep-rooted need to award yourself imagined 'victories'. You can't see the wood for those trees.


Yes, but only from the perspective of someone watching the Earth rotate. From the perspective of the observer on the ground, the rotation is not felt (as no accelerations or decelerations are experienced) so for practical (earthbound) purposes he is stationary.


yes you can and yes you do. To fly somewhere else, the plane only needs to fly at a speed differential to the air mass. that speed would be the same speed regardless of the rotation speed of the globe.
On a still day, a hot air balloon will rise straight up. If it could stay up for 24 hours, it would from the perspective of space have completed one full "orbit" along a circle of the globe. From the perspective of someone on the ground, or in the balloon, they would be in the same place on Earth when they landed as they had been when they floated up.

So, the global spin would have had no effect, at all, on the balloon. Because the earth below and the atmosphere in which the balloon is suspended, at that point, are spinning at an equal speed.

If there is a slight wind in any direction, then the balloon will travel relative to the ground at the speed of that wind in that direction. if the wind is 20 mph the balloon will have an airspeed of zero 9as it is not moving againstthe air flow but keeping station with it0 and wil have a groundspeed of 20 mph.

From the point of takeoff, ONLY the air flow will affect the speed of the balloon relative to the ground.

Unless you have never watched a hot air balloon, you have witnessedall this for yourself many times.


One of us is, but it's not me. Flight times aren't identical, they vary depending on prevailing winds. Just one instance of the stupidity of your "identical" suggestion is flight times from UK to USA, which can be and are often considerably speeded up by the Jet Stream. For flights to have identical times, there would have to be no jet stream. Don't you believe in the Jet Stream either Stan?

Du you accept the Coriolis effect? If not, why do storms rotate one direction in the northern hemisphere, and the opposite in the southern hemisphere? None of this would happen but for the Earth's spin.