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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Eyeroll
Again you fail to answer a direct question and bring up nonsensical plagiarized gibberish. Hurricanes, space and windcharts have got nothing to with this easy question .

What speed is this eastward bound plane travelling if the 1000 mph ball is spinning eastward. 500 or 1500. ? Its not a hard question.'"


It was a detailed if summarized explanation, in good faith, in answer to what I thought was a straight question. I afforded you the courtesy of a full answer to your question. I note your aggressive "nonsensical plagiarized gibberish" barb with regret though sadly not surprise, but my response was none of those things. If there's anything you can't understand then read it more carefully.

The answer you want is very well explained in my answer. For the purposes of the passengers and their desire to reach a specific destination, the plane is going at 500 mph.

If you want for some reason to take into account the rotation speed of the Earth, then from that frame of reference the plane is also going at 1500 mph. But in that frame of reference was travelling at 1000mph whilst stationary on the runway. It isn't therefore a useful frame of reference.

And if you want to take into account the speed of the Earth, as a part of the galaxy, through space, the plane is also travelling at approx. 1.3 million mph. But that is also a pretty irrelevant frame of reference.

It's not a hard answer. It's very simple. Different speeds. All true, from the respective frames of reference.

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Quote: whothefeckisalice "I think he's putting alternate scenarios into the equation in an attempt to throw you off Stanley. 500mph if its here 1500mph if its their. He simply doesn't know himself. Ha.'"

I'll get answered with a barrage of cranial jabs followed by a copy and pasted testimony which isn't his own thoughts. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: whothefeckisalice "I think he's putting alternate scenarios into the equation in an attempt to throw you off Stanley. 500mph if its here 1500mph if its their. He simply doesn't know himself. Ha.'"


You appear to struggle with simple concepts. Let me help.

You and your toy plane are sitting at the edge of a roundabout which is rotating (measured at the outside) at 2 mph. Is your toy plane moving on the roundabout? No. It is stationary on the roundabout. Its speed relative to your seat on the roundabout is nil. The roundabout can rotate a hundred times, your plane will throughout remain in the same spot on the roundabout. As will you. It will go nowhere.

Is the plane also moving in circles at 2 mph? Of course it is. An observer standing by the roundabout can see you and your plane, going round and round, at 2mph.

See? Both speeds are true. Now, that wasn't difficult, was it?

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "I'll get answered with a barrage of cranial jabs followed by a copy and pasted testimony which isn't his own thoughts.
Oops, wrong again. Still, you should be used to that icon_biggrin.gif

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Okay, here goes. I'm finally going to come out of the conspiracy closet...

The plane takes off, depending on the wing pixies and if the pilot is a Freemason, but only gets to 500mph before it turns into a hologram. This hologram is then uploaded to a giant Satanic computer that displays the sky to trick us into thinking that everything is spheroid. The pretend aircraft is then scanned and uploaded to a Nasa controlled green-screen CGI workshop where Stanley Kubrick (Who's death was faked) presides like a dictator over all special effects. The pretend image then disappears because it's near the fake south pole, which isn't like the actual wall of ice held together by giants and angels. Meanwhile, the world's scientists collude and devise plans to make God seem even less real than Santa Claus, which is causing concern. Eventually the aircraft appears again, but is busy spraying Chemtrails full of mind controlling magic dust. But it isn't happy dust. It's controlling our minds, but not going a great job of it because I'm typing this. Once the aircraft hits 160000mph it turns back into a real plane to land. I say real plane, but it's just a model created by Jewish Nazi rocket experts who fill our TV sets with symbols and conditioning to tell us that the world is older than 6000 years, which is laughable as we all know that an invisible man behind the hologram of the sky got bored after billions of years and created us.

Boom.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark " the plane is going at 500 mph. If you want for some reason to take into account the rotation speed of the Earth, then from that frame of reference the plane is also going at 1500 mph. But in that frame of reference was travelling at 1000mph whilst stationary on the runway. It isn't therefore a useful frame of reference. '"


[iOkay so by your logic, a stationary grounded plane is travelling at 1000 mph, the plane travelling eastward is speeding at 1500 mph obviously, so a westward travelling plane must be travelling against the earths spin at -500 mph. And both planes travel time is exactly identical with the exception of jet stream. This proves the earth does not spin.

Also if the stationary grounded plane is travelling at 1000 mph and a car drives past going eastward that car is travelling at 1030 mph whilst the other car travelling westward is travelling -970 mph. Absolute drivel, The western travelling plane / car should reach their destinations quicker through the earths spin. Thats why you put variables within your answer, 500 mph here 1500 mph there. Gotcha[/i
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Quote: TheButcher "Okay, here goes. I'm finally going to come out of the conspiracy closet...

The plane takes off, depending on the wing pixies and if the pilot is a Freemason, but only gets to 500mph before it turns into a hologram. This hologram is then uploaded to a giant Satanic computer that displays the sky to trick us into thinking that everything is spheroid. The pretend aircraft is then scanned and uploaded to a Nasa controlled green-screen CGI workshop where Stanley Kubrick (Who's death was faked) presides like a dictator over all special effects. The pretend image then disappears because it's near the fake south pole, which isn't like the actual wall of ice held together by giants and angels. Meanwhile, the world's scientists collude and devise plans to make God seem even less real than Santa Claus, which is causing concern. Eventually the aircraft appears again, but is busy spraying Chemtrails full of mind controlling magic dust. But it isn't happy dust. It's controlling our minds, but not going a great job of it because I'm typing this. Once the aircraft hits 160000mph it turns back into a real plane to land. I say real plane, but it's just a model created by Jewish Nazi rocket experts who fill our TV sets with symbols and conditioning to tell us that the world is older than 6000 years, which is laughable as we all know that an invisible man behind the hologram of the sky got bored after billions of years and created us.

Boom.'"


How mature of you.Thats Atheism for you. !!!

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Quote: whothefeckisalice "How mature of you.Thats Atheism for you. !!!'"


How dare you question what I believe.

If you think I'm wrong prove it. Is it because it sounds silly to you? So you question my truth with a personal attack? How do you know I'm an atheist? I just said above that the creator sits behind the sky hologram obviously unable to influence anything even though he created everything. Doesn't mean he's not there. I also think he has a Zebra's head, because why not?

Come on second account of Stan, prove me wrong.

You can't. Go away.

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Quote: TheButcher "Okay, here goes. I'm finally going to come out of the conspiracy closet...

The plane takes off, depending on the wing pixies and if the pilot is a Freemason, but only gets to 500mph before it turns into a hologram. This hologram is then uploaded to a giant Satanic computer that displays the sky to trick us into thinking that everything is spheroid. The pretend aircraft is then scanned and uploaded to a Nasa controlled green-screen CGI workshop where Stanley Kubrick (Who's death was faked) presides like a dictator over all special effects. The pretend image then disappears because it's near the fake south pole, which isn't like the actual wall of ice held together by giants and angels. Meanwhile, the world's scientists collude and devise plans to make God seem even less real than Santa Claus, which is causing concern. Eventually the aircraft appears again, but is busy spraying Chemtrails full of mind controlling magic dust. But it isn't happy dust. It's controlling our minds, but not going a great job of it because I'm typing this. Once the aircraft hits 160000mph it turns back into a real plane to land. I say real plane, but it's just a model created by Jewish Nazi rocket experts who fill our TV sets with symbols and conditioning to tell us that the world is older than 6000 years, which is laughable as we all know that an invisible man behind the hologram of the sky got bored after billions of years and created us.

Boom.'"


HaHaHaHa Tosspot. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "HaHaHaHa Tosspot.
Is that all you got?

Personal attacks on my beliefs?

I expected more from you Stan. You finally made me come out and say what I believe yet you provide no evidence to show that it isn't true, strengthening my view.

Pathetic. Anyone reading these posts can see that your alternate worldview is simply not alternate enough. I mean, wing pixies on planes are common knowledge among pilots who have to feed them exclusively on pork chops. Who do you think switches on the chemtrails?

Blinded by the conspiracy theorists rational worldview.

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Quote: TheButcher "I wasn't at all. I was going off what you posted earlier in the thread after you commented on what I said about religion.

I'm genuinely open to having my mind changed on a subject if it can be evidenced correctly and not full of holes. The things you are saying in these threads don't stand up to scrutiny. They simply don't. You also can't go around telling everyone to open their eyes and that the reality that everyone else knows is somehow wrong when it plainly works in a way that can be observed, tested, and relied upon. Big claims require big evidence. It's not up to everyone else to prove reality. It's already been done! We live in and with it. If you claim that the laws of physics are suspended just for us on a disc, it's up to you to prove it, not the rest of us to prove it's wrong. The burden of proof is with the claim.

The trouble is, Stan, is that you are so far down the rabbit hole it's almost impossible to climb back out. The Earth isn't flat. Nasa really does do stuff in space. Satellites are real. The world isn't run by some Satanic secret society. Stars are real. The sun really is far away. The ISS really is orbiting the planet. GPS is real. The Earth is old. We're all related. Evolution connects every living thing. We're apes. This isn't me blinded by some kind of indoctrination, it's reality. Proven. Tested. Relied upon.

It's not a big conspiracy.

Your aggressive tone does you no favours either.'"


The last paragraph. The Atheism rambles. Im Me by the way. Stan is Stan.

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Quote: TheButcher "How dare you question what I believe.

If you think I'm wrong prove it. Is it because it sounds silly to you? So you question my truth with a personal attack? How do you know I'm an atheist? I just said above that the creator sits behind the sky hologram obviously unable to influence anything even though he created everything. Doesn't mean he's not there. I also think he has a Zebra's head, because why not?

Come on second account of Stan, prove me wrong.

You can't. Go away.

Just because your losing, you revert to immature gibberish. I don't need two accounts to to make you look a fool matey icon_lol.gif

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Quote: whothefeckisalice "The last paragraph. The Atheism rambles. Im Me by the way. Stan is Stan.'"


That was me lying.

Before You/Stan made me come out of the conspiracy closet.

So rather than prove why my views are wrong, you resort to another personal attack. My view is right. Wing pixies, holograms, zebra-headed God, chemtrails, fake sky. It's all real and you're proving it to me with each personal attack and not providing any evidence to the contrary.

Must try harder.

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Just because your losing, you revert to immature gibberish. I don't need two accounts to to make you look a fool matey
Another personal attack. Who would have thought eh?

So my deeply held belief is 'immature gibberish'? Yet all you do is parade around and claim victory regardless of subject, without even showing any evidence as to why you consider my view to be wrong. You didn't have a problem derailing, and writing reams of poorly written and researched 'evidence' when Ferocious Aardvark puts forward a view. So your lack of trying to provide evidence against my view and personal attacks shows your mentality. If it is so easy to disprove and make me look foolish, prove to me that there are no Wing pixies on planes.

I'm very patient.

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Quote: TheButcher " That was me lying.Before You/Stan made me come out of the conspiracy closet. So rather than prove why my views are wrong, you resort to another personal attack. My view is right. Wing pixies, holograms, zebra-headed God, chemtrails, fake sky. It's all real and you're proving it to me with each personal attack and not providing any evidence to the contrary. Must try harder.'"

Taking God's name in vain, you'll be sorry one day. Seriously.

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