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Leading scientists of Nazi Germany including[i Werner Heisenberg [/iwere captured by the British in 1945 and housed for a while at Farm Hall in England. Their private conversations were secretly recorded which remained a secret for many decades as it revealed they did not have a clue about nuclear weapons. These leaders of the alleged Nazi atom bomb project were painfully ignorant about such affairs, and when news of Hiroshima and Nagasaki came their way, it shocked them badly. They didn't have a clue. So much for a Nazi atom bomb program. It's american propaganda.

This book is a transcript of their secretly recorded conversations
Compiled by Jeremy Bernstein

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You have to be a special kind of deluded to believe there was no Hiroshima nor Nagasaki.

There have been and are thousnads of nuclear powered ships, inclduing submarines and aircraft carriers, and Russia operates nuclear icebreakers regularly in the Arctic.
www.world-nuclear.org/info/non-p ... red-ships/

There are 438 nuclear power plants in 31 countries.
You have to be a special kind of deluded to believe there was no Hiroshima nor Nagasaki.

There have been and are thousnads of nuclear powered ships, inclduing submarines and aircraft carriers, and Russia operates nuclear icebreakers regularly in the Arctic.
www.world-nuclear.org/info/non-p ... red-ships/

There are 438 nuclear power plants in 31 countries.


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On this subject, you might be interested in checking out a book published in 1950 by a Russian aviator deeply involved in the formation of the US Air Force by the name of Alexander P. DeSeversky and entitled "Air Power which contains rich information about the 1945 bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as DeSeversky was the chief inspector of these bombed out cities and found results which radically contradicted the scientific establishment and which were also published in Reader's Digest in 1946. DeSeversky was also an eyewitness of the 1946 Bikini island bomb test with the famous mushroom cloud photos surrounded by battleships. DeSeversky shreds the common interpretation of this explosion and photograph in his book as well as of the Alamagordo, New Mexico bomb test earlier in 1945.

rlAir Power Key to Survivalrl'
By Alexander DeSeversky


Walt Disney incidentally produced a 1943 war movie entitled 'Victory Through Air Power' based on DeSeversky's book of the same name and had a direct influence upon the subsequent founding of the Air Force as a separate military branch.


'Alexander P. DeSeversky rlQuest For Air Powerrl
(a recent biography of DeSeversky which contains a chapter on his analysis of nuclear bombs and the congressional hearing in which he was questioned about this by hostile pro-Navy senators from Connecticut USA).

A few facts from DeSeversky's second book[i 'Air Power

It has photographs of several areas of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that were unaffected by the bombs, and the photos were taken less than a month after the bombs were dropped. These photos and photos like them were strictly censored and not allowed to reach the American public.

Hiroshima's tram cable car transportation system was back working everywhere throughout the city ([ieven in the most damaged areas[/i) less than 48 hours after the bomb was dropped on the city.

The 1945 Alamagordo, New Mexico test did explode a bomb attached to a 100 foot tall tower as mimicked in the otherwise mythical Harrison Ford movie scene. DeSeversky quotes an eyewitness to this event who was a Manhattan project scientist who wrote that the tower that held the bomb was not even destroyed by the bomb's explosion. The bottom half of the tower was still standing, and this object was obviously at the centre of this "nuclear" bomb explosion. This fact can be verified because this scientist wrote a book which contains this statement.

The information about atomic bombs takes about two or three chapters of DeSeversky's book which is primarily about combating outdated nineteenth century military strategy still extent especially in the navy. He was a disciple of the dynamic and outspoken Billy Mitchell and also a friend of Lord Trenchard, founder of the British RAF. Politically, he was an anti-communist conservative, but the book is interesting. If one wanted a big picture strategy of how to destroy american military and industrial power, this book shows how to do it. It's in Billy Mitchell's "vital centres" doctrine.


Like i explained in my first post on this topic .[i There is nothing in nuclear weapons to slow down the neutrons released from the initial fission, so any chain reaction would die out rather quickly. This is also what we see when prompt criticality is accidentally achieved in nuclear plant accidents (rapid spike in energy and then a meltdown as the reaction is not sustained). Nuclear power is a delicate game of sustaining that reaction, and a bomb doesn't accomplish that.[/i

I've added another astonishing link Uncovering rlThe Nuclear Hoaxrl There's plenty more literature and publishings within this field exposing this big Whopping fear mongering pork pies.

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As we're cutting and pasting, I thought as good a way as any to debunk your nonsense was this
Quote: Political analyst Franklin Ryckaert "
The political implications of atomic bombs being a fraud would be enormous.

It would mean not only that the US had cheated the world, but also that the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel had been cheating the world in a similar way.

The “treason” of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would have been a fraud, and they would have been executed for nothing.

The Israeli whistleblower Vanunu would have been lying also, by “exposing” Israel’s nuclear arms program when no such program existed.

Israel would also be feigning right now to be concerned about a possible Iranian nuclear bomb, knowing that no such bomb had ever been built.

As for the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that too would have been a total fake, with both Khrushchev and Kennedy cynically aware that they were engaged in a bogus argument about non-existent WMD!

Occam’s Razor would suggest that none of this nonsense is possible.'"


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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As we're cutting and pasting, I thought as good a way as any to debunk your nonsense was this

Stanley has to be the best bogus account ever.

He's strung us all along for ages with his mystical paranoia, but it isn't real. You can't sit in such a small ideological echo chamber without, at some point, realising that you're so far down the rabbit hole that the next bit of willful ignorance or carefully constructed lie is more ridiculous than the last. Normal human beings are more honest with themselves and I believe Stan in his heart knows this. He just posts his whacked-out ideas to make people like you and I smash our faces against our desks.

I applaud him for his well constructed word salads and world-class asyndesis, but that's all it is, and I think he's playing us along...

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Back on topic. rlNukes Do Not Existrl

The Nuclear Hoax the above documentary explores the truth about nuclear energy and the surprisingly abundant evidence that nuclear weapons are a hoax. Many of the nuclear explosion videos we have all seen and presumed real are shown to be complete fakes using model trees, houses and cars exploding on a set.

The destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not the result of one large explosion as advertised, but rather the result of a fire-bombing campaign comparable to Tokyo's fire-bombed remains. Hiroshima and Nagasaki also never experienced anything like the hundreds or thousands of years of radiation predicted by nuclear scientists, in fact, vegetation began growing within a month after the bombing, and the Japanese people began rebuilding almost immediately. Some nuclear physicists even claim nuclear weaponry fraudulent based solely on the technical impossibilities of fission material not to be incinerated before triggering the necessary chain reaction. Top nuclear physicist Galen Winsor explains how nuclear power plants are essentially just steam plants and nothing but the most expensive and effective way to boil water. He completely blows the lid off the idea of nuclear meltdown or nuclear waste, and even eats a good portion of live radioactive waste on camera which he claims to have been doing for years His professional opinion is that fear of nuclear radiation has been greatly exaggerated to scare people and so a few powerful organizations can maintain total control of the world's most valuable energy resource. Even the government teaching school-children to hide under their desks just to induce fear and funnel black tax money into a fake Cold War arms race as big and deceptive as the fake Space Race.

With regards to the Anti Semite Franklin Ryckyaert - rlThis Nuclear Physisist Galem Winsorrl urines all over his chips.

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I'm interested in how these firebombing campaigns were done with one plane in one minute, as opposed to hundreds of squadrons of bombers dropping hundreds of thousands of incendiary bombs over several days.

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Haha.

His stuff is gold.

If there was an award for believing the most gullible guff while maintaining nearly everyone else is wrong, he'd be Premier league.

Has anyone complied a list of his absurdities yet?

I think he's collecting conspiracies.

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I can't wait to hear his explanation of Chernobyl and how the fallout of the last 30 years has merely been 'fake'.

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In the book Vatican Assassins by Eric Jon Phelps (a non-fiction book about The history of the Jesuits) it is suggested that the bombs used on Japan in WWII were actually placed on the ground beforehand and exploded there. The US bombers having dropped dummy bombs. The reason being that the technology for dropping a-bombs from altitude wasn't developed at that time. This would mean that they'd have to have had cooperation with elements in the Japanese government to place (or construct) the real bombs on the ground ahead of time.

Before you get carried away with your ideas that only so-called nukes can create mushroom clouds I must remind you that conventional bombs detonated at ground level will generate the characteristic mushroom cloud. As the ground level bomb explodes it grows into a big dome of expanding hot gasses. As this dome rises into the cooler upper air mass the air rushing in under the dome creates the mushroom top with curved edges representing the airflow. The stem is made up of the rising column of smoke and heat from the epicentre still fed by the hottest gasses at the point of detonation.

A high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax.

With regards to Chernobyl.

Fallacy #1[i Chernobyl [/ias if some magical incantation to make sceptics go away.[i A prime piece of hoax maintenance.[/i

Fallacy #5: It is a dishonour to the dead at Chernobyl to doubt the claims of commercially viable nuclear energy production.
Truth: Its really no worse than questioning the causes of any other deaths said to have been caused by an explosion anywhere else in the world. Explosion Tragedies unfortunately happen Blame the deception perception.

We can settle this no problem..ask the local nuclear power station if you can go and clean the nuclear pile or dump load. Take The Butcher with you, I'm not only bored with his stalking, attempted derailing tactics and dribbling rantings, but you can put him in the pile by proxy. Hahahahaha

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I don't have to do anything to make you go off point. You're ideas are all over the place.

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "In the book Vatican Assassins by Eric Jon Phelps (a non-fiction book about The history of the Jesuits) it is suggested that the bombs used on Japan in WWII were actually placed on the ground beforehand and exploded there. The US bombers having dropped dummy bombs. The reason being that the technology for dropping a-bombs from altitude wasn't developed at that time. This would mean that they'd have to have had cooperation with elements in the Japanese government to place (or construct) the real bombs on the ground ahead of time.'"


This sounds plausible. Nuclear bombs did not and still don't exist. However, the US was unable to detonate the nuclear bombs they didn't have as they hadn't developed the technology to drop non-existent bombs from altitude at the time.

So, despite being in a war to the death, they got the Japanese government to allow them to transport an atomic bomb from the United States to the centre of Hiroshima, and then to synchronize the blast to make it look as if it was a bomb that had been dropped from a plane.

And all for nothing, too, as the war continued.

Comedy gold, this!

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Before you get carried away with your ideas that only so-called nukes can create mushroom clouds '"

Who mentioned mushroom clouds? WTF have they to do with it?

Quote: FLAT STANLEY " I must remind you that conventional bombs detonated at ground level will generate the characteristic mushroom cloud. '"

No, they won't. The Hiroshima cloud reached an altitude of over 60,000 feet in around ten minutes. No conventioanl bomb would come even close. Of course, I assume the photos are all fake?

Here is one taken from Enola Gay around 30 seconds after the blast. Enola Gay is at 30,000 feet and already the cloud is plainly higher than that altitude.


Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. '"

Said by whom? Expert straw man builders like you? The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 600 metres and the Nagasaki bomb at 500 metres, so extremely low altitude. These altitudes were specifically chosen so as to
(a) flatten the maximum number of structures (b) create the maximum possible firestorm; and
(c) kill the maximum number of people for the added benefit of minimising the number of persons available to fight fires and maximise the firestorm.

It was in fact a British scientist, Willam Penney, who was chiefly responsible for calculating the optimum detonation heights of nuclear bombs. You can read his declassified work here:
blog.nuclecrecy.com/wp-conte ... Gadget.pdf

But no doubt that's a fake too?
Quote: FLAT STANLEY "In the book Vatican Assassins by Eric Jon Phelps (a non-fiction book about The history of the Jesuits) it is suggested that the bombs used on Japan in WWII were actually placed on the ground beforehand and exploded there. The US bombers having dropped dummy bombs. The reason being that the technology for dropping a-bombs from altitude wasn't developed at that time. This would mean that they'd have to have had cooperation with elements in the Japanese government to place (or construct) the real bombs on the ground ahead of time.'"


This sounds plausible. Nuclear bombs did not and still don't exist. However, the US was unable to detonate the nuclear bombs they didn't have as they hadn't developed the technology to drop non-existent bombs from altitude at the time.

So, despite being in a war to the death, they got the Japanese government to allow them to transport an atomic bomb from the United States to the centre of Hiroshima, and then to synchronize the blast to make it look as if it was a bomb that had been dropped from a plane.

And all for nothing, too, as the war continued.

Comedy gold, this!

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Before you get carried away with your ideas that only so-called nukes can create mushroom clouds '"

Who mentioned mushroom clouds? WTF have they to do with it?

Quote: FLAT STANLEY " I must remind you that conventional bombs detonated at ground level will generate the characteristic mushroom cloud. '"

No, they won't. The Hiroshima cloud reached an altitude of over 60,000 feet in around ten minutes. No conventioanl bomb would come even close. Of course, I assume the photos are all fake?

Here is one taken from Enola Gay around 30 seconds after the blast. Enola Gay is at 30,000 feet and already the cloud is plainly higher than that altitude.


Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. '"

Said by whom? Expert straw man builders like you? The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 600 metres and the Nagasaki bomb at 500 metres, so extremely low altitude. These altitudes were specifically chosen so as to
(a) flatten the maximum number of structures (b) create the maximum possible firestorm; and
(c) kill the maximum number of people for the added benefit of minimising the number of persons available to fight fires and maximise the firestorm.

It was in fact a British scientist, Willam Penney, who was chiefly responsible for calculating the optimum detonation heights of nuclear bombs. You can read his declassified work here:
blog.nuclecrecy.com/wp-conte ... Gadget.pdf

But no doubt that's a fake too?


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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "

The destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not the result of one large explosion as advertised, but rather the result of a fire-bombing campaign comparable to Tokyo's fire-bombed remains.'"


The crucial difference between cities devastated by firebombing and cities like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were devastated by atom bombs, is that hundreds of planes in constant relays over several days are necessary for the firebombing of cities, whereas ONE PLANE CARRYING ONE BOMB was sufficient for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Let's have a look at the facts about firebombing Tokyo and see if they hold-up against your idea that something identical happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. According to the Institute for historical review (rlhttps://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.htmlrl, On March 9-10, 1945, a wave of 300 American bombers struck Tokyo, killing 100,000 people. 1700 tons of bombs were necessary to accomplish this devastation. On May 23, 1945, “520 giant B-29 ‘Superfortress’ American bombers unleashed 4,500 tons of incendiary bombs n the heart of the already battered Japanese capital.” Two days later, on May 25, “a second strike of 502 ‘Superfortress’ planes roared low over Tokyo, raining down 4,000 tons of explosives." If Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been given the identical firebombing treatment, as the conspiracy theory asserts, they too would have required hundreds of giant planes dropping thousands of tons of explosives over several days.

We know for a fact—for the Japanese victims were themselves eyewitnesses to each atomic attack—that only ONE plane dropping ONE bomb was sufficient to accomplish the devastation at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki, for example, weighed 10,000 pounds. Note that: pounds, not tons.

For firebombing Tokyo, tons of bombs were necessary over several days. At Nagasaki, one much lighter bomb, weighed in pounds not tons, did the trick in nine seconds.

Nine seconds.

Like Tokyo and other Japanese cities, many German cities were subjected to firebombing. In all cases, hundreds of planes carrying thousands of tons of explosives were necessary over a period of several days in order to accomplish the devastation. Not one of these cities was reduced to ruins within a few seconds, as in the case of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Nor did any of these other firebombed cities report “the trans-generational malignancies and immune deficiencies caused by the deadly plutonium and other radioactive isotopes produced by the bomb.”

The facts say otherwise to your assertion without proper evidence, and that's without going into the ridiculous consequences of Nuclear weapons being all pretend that you elude to.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Said by whom? Expert straw man builders like you? [i The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 600 metres and the Nagasaki bomb at 500 metres, so extremely low altitude[/i. These altitudes were specifically chosen so as to
(a) flatten the maximum number of structures (b) create the maximum possible firestorm; and
(c) kill the maximum number of people for the added benefit of minimising the number of persons available to fight fires and maximise the firestorm.'"


Hahahaha Comedy gold is this. Taken from Wikipedia Altitude is defined on the following scale


After leaving Tinian the aircraft made their way separately to Iwo Jima to rendezvous with Sweeney and Marquardt at [i05),[121] and set course for Japan. The aircraft arrived over the target in clear visibility at [i31,060 feet (9,470 m)[/i.[122] Parsons, who was in command of the mission, armed the bomb during the flight to minimize the risks during takeoff. He had witnessed four B-29s crash and burn at takeoff, and feared that a nuclear explosion would occur if a B-29 crashed with an armed Little Boy on board.[123] His assistant, Second Lieutenant Morris R. Jeppson, removed the safety devices 30 minutes before reaching the target area.[124]

Hahahaha. High Altitude as i claimed earlier[i high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax[/i Comedy Gold icon_lol.gif

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