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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[iThis is not the case at all.You're simply trying to psycho analyse me which is pathetic. Yes i believe in a Creator and Geocentrism supports this fact but the fallacy and lack of authentic evidence of the spinning ball theory is what spurs my core belief. Nothing can shake your true heliocentric view which is a bit hypocritical coming from you. You explained to me that that you're a 100% evidence type of guy and 99% is not good enough for you to swallow. Well there's holes as big as craters if you could be d to scrutinize NASA but you dismiss the evidence on this. Again how hypocritical of you.[/i'"


I wasn't at all. I was going off what you posted earlier in the thread after you commented on what I said about religion.

I'm genuinely open to having my mind changed on a subject if it can be evidenced correctly and not full of holes. The things you are saying in these threads don't stand up to scrutiny. They simply don't. You also can't go around telling everyone to open their eyes and that the reality that everyone else knows is somehow wrong when it plainly works in a way that can be observed, tested, and relied upon. Big claims require big evidence. It's not up to everyone else to prove reality. It's already been done! We live in and with it. If you claim that the laws of physics are suspended just for us on a disc, it's up to you to prove it, not the rest of us to prove it's wrong. The burden of proof is with the claim.

The trouble is, Stan, is that you are so far down the rabbit hole it's almost impossible to climb back out. The Earth isn't flat. Nasa really does do stuff in space. Satellites are real. The world isn't run by some Satanic secret society. Stars are real. The sun really is far away. The ISS really is orbiting the planet. GPS is real. The Earth is old. We're all related. Evolution connects every living thing. We're apes. This isn't me blinded by some kind of indoctrination, it's reality. Proven. Tested. Relied upon.

It's not a big conspiracy.

Your aggressive tone does you no favours either.

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Darwinsim (Evolution) is a Religion. These evolutionists are radicals no different than ISIS (Radical Islam) or Radical Christians.
Darwinists are ignorant. They simply will not let go of the idea that they have come from Rocks. They insist their ancestors are ape-like creatures. How Bizarre. Everything came from nothing.

I don't wish to derail your religious belief. Good on you. icon_biggrin.gif

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I'm not sure how many fallacies you can fit in one post, but that's a good effort.

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Are you saying that the ISS is in fact a planet- wide hologram?

Really?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Are you saying that the ISS is in fact a planet- wide hologram?

Really?'"


No i'm saying the real ISS is ground based in a perfectly designed studio, icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "No i'm saying the real ISS is ground based in a perfectly designed studio,
Another fingers-in-ears moment? As you well know, I meant the one which every human on Earth can watch as it orbits the globe. What is that, given you say it can't be the ISS?

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Quote: TheButcher " I[i'm genuinely open to having my mind changed on a subject if it can be evidenced correctly and not full of holes[/i'"

[iOkay , Lets take on the Moon landing subject, NASA's evidence of the Lunar landing has been pulled apart. by "Scientists".Their evidence is full of glaring holes and the Actornaughts have been secretly filmed faking the Globes curvature in Very low orbit see in this rlFootagerl or if you can't digest it watch it from rl22 minutesrl is where the real meat on the bones begins. So here is actual secret footage of the Actornaughts caught red handed faking their mission. So the question must be put to you. Does 100% evidence still adjudicate your judgement.?. This documentary smashes holes in the Moon Landing. You've done the talking can you do the walking. Simple question[/i
Quote: TheButcher "TheButcher Wrote] The trouble is, Stan, is that you are so far down the rabbit hole it's almost impossible to climb back out.The Earth isn't flat. Nasa really does do stuff in space. Satellites are real. The world isn't run by some Satanic secret society. Stars are real. The sun really is far away. The ISS really is orbiting the planet. GPS is real. The Earth is old. We're all related. Evolution connects every living thing. We're apes. This isn't me blinded by some kind of indoctrination, it's reality. Proven. Tested. Relied upon..'"

[iYou see Butcher your very good at observing splinters in other peoples eyes, but you fail to see the plank in your own. Your stuck in the theoretical Darwinian Rabbit hole where evolution is more bizarre than any outrageous conspiracy. The Globe has never been proved, NASA really do fake space, Satellites have never been proven, The World is absolutely being dominated by an occult Shadow Organisation, Stars are just wandering and twinkling in the firmament, The ISS is in a specialised studio,, GPS is ground based triangulation, the earth is old, we're all related through creation, I'm am 100% human and not an Ape. You are totally indoctrinated into Heliocentric Darwinian Theories which is a world view religious concept. And who said that my ideas are based on a Religious Ideology, when your true belief system proves this very contradiction. Its just Freemasonic Theories indoctrinated into the curriculum and never was proven it was just accepted as truth without any conviction. Take the plank out of your own eye before observing splinters in others..Cheers[/i

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Loved the Matthew 7-4.5 metaphor. I couldn't stay silent on this discipline so heres my detailed affinity. Darwin himself failed to conceive his own theorized natural process belief as he was a Freemason. This Society itself holds a significant account of its formation and its existence based upon the scriptures of the Genesis account where Eve was fooled by Satan in the Garden of Eden where she ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge. In Freemasonry this scripture is the baseline of their dogma to worship Satan for setting free mankind and giving mankind the knowledge of perceiving what is Good and Evil.

The Darwinian theory is just Science propagating or opposing against Creationism in all forms. I believe in the Creation Scriptures too. The Atheist, Big Bang, Darwinian Everything came from nothing theory to me is purely fabricated to fit the Freemason agenda of swindling the publics perception of God the Creator. So Darwin himself believed the Biblical Genesis account worshiping Satan, Satanism dogma ignores the existence of God, implores man to become god. Darwinism is exactly the same, it negates God's existence and excels mans superiority to become your own god through science and people buy into this junk hook line and sinker the comparisons of the two dogma are identical.

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Come on, Stan. Stooping to creating another account to back yourself up is a bit sad. How many is that now?

As for creationist viewpoints...

Like arguing with a pigeon.

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Quote: TheButcher "Come on, Stan. Stooping to creating another account to back yourself up is a bit sad. How many is that now?

As for creationist viewpoints...

Like arguing with a pigeon.

Bloody hell its hard enough with one account debating the gruesome twosome nevermind two accounts. Seriously my software is a mountainous task to inscribe emails for a start. I don't need another account i can fight my own battles.

To (WTFIA) welcome, its great to have a fellow Christian on board, real debates can now take place. icon_thumb.gif

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They could, if you had the slightest interest in debate. But you don't.

Unless you are going to reply what the "ISS" that you can see with your own eyes, really is, if it isn't the ISS?

I'm restricting myself to one, simple, question, but you won't tell me what you think that is. You refuse to look up into the sky and see the ISS go by, as seeing it would probably overload your denial circuits and you can't take the risk.

But it will predictably pass overhead again...and again...and again. How irritating of it for you.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "They could, if you had the slightest interest in debate. But you don't. Unless you are going to reply what the "ISS" that you can see with your own eyes, really is, if it isn't the ISS '"

I really don't have an issue answering your questions its my questions that get greatly ignored, The simulated ISS is simply a rlHolographic Projection.rl
[iMost people believe that the Space Station exists for 3 reasons
1. They can see what appears to be the space station through a telescope. Which is the Hologram.
2. They have seen what they are told in video interviews on Mainstream TV coming from the inside the Space Station (which are actually carefully choreographed Green Screen short events) The reason there isn't a live 24 hour webcam feed is because that would be nearly impossible for them to produce, because they are not in fact on the ISS.
3. Other countries have also participated in the project. Upon closer inspection, none of these arguments hold water.[/i


[iThe images people are seeing through a telescope and by naked eye are very blurry, they fade in from a rainbow, and the ISS doesn't move at a uniform pace across the sky. The ISS through a telescope looks much more like a holograph than a solid object actually flying in space. Holographic arrays are commonplace today, and complex systems such as project Blue beam designed by the military show that projecting images in the sky is not difficult now. The "Norway Spiral" and the "rapture of Jesus Christ in Africa" are two other examples of this type of technology used.[/i
[iIF THE SPACE STATION WAS REAL WE WOULD SEE THE ABUNDANCE OF ORBITING SATELLITES FLYING ABOUT, WHICH ADDS MORE FUEL TO THE FRAUD KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE..[/i

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Do you ever read back what you copy and paste Stanley? You're insane!

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "I really don't have an issue answering your questions its my questions that get greatly ignored, The simulated ISS is simply a rlHolographic Projection.rl
[iMost people believe that the Space Station exists for 3 reasons
1. They can see what appears to be the space station through a telescope. Which is the Hologram.'"

Can you explain to me the following then please


Quote: FLAT STANLEY "The images people are seeing through a telescope and by naked eye are very blurry'"

No they are not. They vary greatly, depending on the degree of atmospheric distortion, and the equipment used.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY ".. the ISS doesn't move at a uniform pace across the sky. '"

But OF COURSE it does! It moves at an absolutely dead-set unifrom pace! This is why it is PREDICTABLE. To the exact SECOND! Any day it comes your way, you can know in advance the second it will appear and (if it will cross into the Earth's shadow) the exact second it will quickly disappear. It does you arguments no favours to claim something so ridiculous as "it doesn't move at a uniform pace". It couldn't BE more uniform.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY " The ISS through a telescope looks much more like a holograph than a solid object actually flying in space.'"

From someone who has never seen it, that seems an odd claim

But, answer me thishttps://i.cbc.ca/1.3219791.1441742876!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/4x3_620/iss-solar-transit.jpeg" >


Quote: FLAT STANLEY " IF THE SPACE STATION WAS REAL WE WOULD SEE THE ABUNDANCE OF ORBITING SATELLITES FLYING ABOUT,'"

The reality of the ISS has nothing to do with the existence of other satellites. However, I have previously provided you with resources to discover the identity and exact (predictable) orbits (or locations, for geostationary satelites) and you can therefore on a clear night observe your fil of satellites, AND know which ones they are. How can that be possible, if they don't exist? Or does NASA also project moving holographs of thousands of satellites too?

And how exactly does Sky tv (and other satellite based systems) work? All the millions of Sky dishes are all pointed precisely so that they aim at the relevant satellite. If you point your dish there, you get a signal. If you move it, the signal disappears.

Given you think the Sky broadcasting satellites don't exist, how is this trick done?

I await the "truth" with great interest

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Ferocious Aardvark
You've give me a lot of questions there quite a lot of information, however if you hadn't of ignored the Project Bluebeam links, most of your questions would be answered their. I will reply to your long winded plagiarized post in due course but i'm sat here in hysterics knowing that you've Copied And Pasted these questions from the YouTube page of the Video i posted,

Also why do you continue to keep posting CGI composites. icon_lol.gif

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