Good grief Bren. You're a Sheep. You're part of the Heliocentric Atheist Darwinian Religion. Don't tell me you didnt know. Yeah and they've exercised power onto your false beliefs. You appear to be in the awkward position of having not done any research into what you are believing.. Baaaa

This is typical of lazy atheists. Rub your magic lamp, abracadabra, snap your fingers and `God' should appear. Have you dedicated years of your life to a sincere search for God? No. Well you have zero argument. GOD is a fairly large and important subject which you seem to have dismissed out of hand.

How many years did you go to school to get the rudiments of an indoctrinated education? 10 years? What if you dedicated 10 years to reaching Higher/God Spiritual Consciousness. Now if you deny spirit you ain't playing with a full deck.. Spirit proves God. Do you sincerely want to know if there is a God. Do You think you can find GOD in a book in the written word or in an argument The search for God is far beyond test tubes and books. I cannot give you my experiences of Higher Consciousness. You have to do the WORK to find out for yourself. Its Life changing.

Bren2K Stan will accuse you of being in some Heliocentric religion - he always does - pretending not to know what a religion is. He has this thing about "heliocentric" - as if it was some gamechanger. Of course, the Sun is at the centre of the Solar System but as the Solar System is a totally insignificant tiny backwater, other than for purely local reference, the Sun is at the centre of nothing, it isn't even anywhere near the centre of our own galaxy, so any reference to "heliocentric" is kind of missing the point.

However, mankind's ingenuity and technical achievements even means that we have an actual image of the actual solar system, taken from deep space in 1990 by the Voyager spacecraft. (Voyager 1 is around 20,000 million km from the Sun and the round trip light time to and from Earth is over 37 hours. More info, and live odometers, here

Which is what exactly?

So no proof of God then?

You can't even admit the one truth that everyone knows for sure. We don't know. The reason everyone knows is because there isn't any proof of a god or gods. If there was proof there would be one religion, followed by all. You can believe that you have some personal connection to an imaginary being but you can provide no proof. Your higher brain functions and the chemistry contained within might make you feel you really know. But you don't. People have dedicated thousands of years to try and prove their gods exist but not a single one has managed it. Amazing isn't it? What are the odds of the tens of thousands of religions over thousands of years not being able to provide one tiny scrap of evidence?

I can see that things work just fine without any external influence, so it would be somewhat stupid of me to dedicate my life chasing something that isn't there. There are no spirits or souls, because there simply isn't any evidence, and plenty of more qualified people than us have looked and found nothing. It's very easy to see why your huge confirmation bias on the ridiculous subjects you claim to know the truth in, exists. Your core belief is based on nothing but wishful thinking, so it can't be that difficult to apply the same misguided logic with everything you look at. Your mindset is fractured.

Are you not going to prove God to the world then? You have an answer for everything else. Admittedly they are usually laughable nonsense, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one.

I eagerly await, with the rest of humanity for your proof of God.

Hahahaha yeah that proves absolutely nothing, however Building a big lie must be tough when tens of thousands of people are troubleshooting your crap. The ISS Tracker is just a simple javascript! rlIllustrationrl.DEBUNKED! Have a go yourself changing your PC clock controls the ISS

Hahaha you don't even know you're part of a Religion.
At least i CHOSE my faith.

[iButcher you're obsessed with God.

Jut wondering why atheists - dedicate so much energy - obsessed in their desire to prove there is no God.

Why would you spend so much time over something that you believe doesn't exist ?

Go on Youtube - and atheists have put great effort into disproving God and mocking God.

Go to Relgion forums - and there is probably more atheists on the forum - talking about God than there is believers in God.

Richard Pillock Dawkins - has built a career on trying to convince everyone there is no God - and written whole books - that come to the conclusion that the whole subject of his book - GOD - doesn't exist.

Its Madness................"You atheists just spend your whole lifes talking about something you don't believe exists"

So if there is no God - what you banging on about something that doesn't exist for all the time then ?

If someone doesn't believe in God - and has no real interest in the subject - because there is nothing in it for them then fair enough.

But what is it with these aggressive atheist types - who dedicate so much of their energy and time - about disproving something that they believe does not exist ? Pathetic really. The answer is simple, there is a spirit behind this obsession to discredit our Creator, these people are obsessed trying to disprove other people's beliefs. I don't go to atheist sites doing the opposite, however if an atheist confronts me I will give my opinion. But these idiots go around trying to start things. There is a spirit of Satan behind their obsession, and they don't even know about it. Or even know they're in a Religion. [/i

Good swerve there Stan. Not worth the effort to ramble on though.

You could try answering the question though. Straight answers are not your forte, but you could start by admitting that you don't know if God exists. Or you could prove he exists to us all and I'll be a convert.

Go on, Stan. Let's see a straight answer.

The Geocentric Plain, Spiritual consciousness. The Word. Miracles and Biblical prophecies are proof of God's fingerprint on this plane. What proof have you got for your god. Oh i forgot Satan is yours disguised as Science.

How can Atheists talk about blind faith. If you want to think something came from nothing and their is no source because there is no proof and certainly not of an intelligence or whatever it is you think, that's fine. Because it requires faith of the unknown. If you are undecided and skeptical then you would be an agnostic Atheist as opposed to an atheist.

Outright rejection in favour of science alone, including the ridiculous theories like big bang, is no different than the main-stream religion as far as brainwashing, conditioning, irrational close-minded thought process, etc. The problem being belief in the unknown, faith in the unproven.

You've placed your faith in materialistic theories as facts. There is your religion. See Mr Butcher there's your blind faith. Splinters in eyes AGAIN