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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Keep digging. Your broad terms are again blown out the water. '"

You reveal a deep-rooted need to award yourself imagined 'victories'. You can't see the wood for those trees.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "If the atmosphere is spinning with the so called planet its travelling with the 1000 mph Eastward spin then as you highlighted above its travelling too at 1000 mph '"

Yes, but only from the perspective of someone watching the Earth rotate. From the perspective of the observer on the ground, the rotation is not felt (as no accelerations or decelerations are experienced) so for practical (earthbound) purposes he is stationary.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "meaning it affects all motion including westward bound flights. You can't have a global atmospheric eastward spin of 1000 mph and it not affect a westward bound flight. '"

yes you can and yes you do. To fly somewhere else, the plane only needs to fly at a speed differential to the air mass. that speed would be the same speed regardless of the rotation speed of the globe.
On a still day, a hot air balloon will rise straight up. If it could stay up for 24 hours, it would from the perspective of space have completed one full "orbit" along a circle of the globe. From the perspective of someone on the ground, or in the balloon, they would be in the same place on Earth when they landed as they had been when they floated up.

So, the global spin would have had no effect, at all, on the balloon. Because the earth below and the atmosphere in which the balloon is suspended, at that point, are spinning at an equal speed.

If there is a slight wind in any direction, then the balloon will travel relative to the ground at the speed of that wind in that direction. if the wind is 20 mph the balloon will have an airspeed of zero 9as it is not moving againstthe air flow but keeping station with it0 and wil have a groundspeed of 20 mph.

From the point of takeoff, ONLY the air flow will affect the speed of the balloon relative to the ground.

Unless you have never watched a hot air balloon, you have witnessedall this for yourself many times.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "The reason flight times are identical both ways is because the Earth is stationary rlExplained thoroughly Hererl You're making a fool of yourself. '"

One of us is, but it's not me. Flight times aren't identical, they vary depending on prevailing winds. Just one instance of the stupidity of your "identical" suggestion is flight times from UK to USA, which can be and are often considerably speeded up by the Jet Stream. For flights to have identical times, there would have to be no jet stream. Don't you believe in the Jet Stream either Stan?

Du you accept the Coriolis effect? If not, why do storms rotate one direction in the northern hemisphere, and the opposite in the southern hemisphere? None of this would happen but for the Earth's spin.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "You can't have it both ways to suit your argument. Yeah the Earths 1000 mph eastward spin doesn't count on earth. Jargon. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "[i As the atmosphere is rotating at the same speed as the ground surface[/i '"

[iLMAO. No, No No. The earth is stationary. As you said, the air moves with the earth spin,[/i[i Well how do i see clouds moving in all directions eh? Not just west to east, they go north to south, and east to west! That in itself proves the earth doesn't spin[/i. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[iLMAO. No, No No. The earth is stationary. As you said, the air moves with the earth spin,[/i[i Well how do i see clouds moving in all directions eh? Not just west to east, they go north to south, and east to west! That in itself proves the earth doesn't spin[/i.
Clouds are in Earth's atmosphere and will move relative to the ground, along with anything else in the air, including planes. In terms of their movement, nothing to do with the Earth spinning, just weather systems (which you may want to read up on).

The stars move across the nights sky as the Earth is spinning innit.

Our Solar System orbits the centre of the Milky Way, but so do all the rest, and the position of our Solar System and the stars around us (which is what we can see) relative to each other, are fairly fixed. I say fairly as over millions of years the positioning will change slightly, but not noticeable in our lifetimes, certainly not 'wandering' as you're imagining.

The whole galaxy is one huge spiral, of which we're towards the ends of one of the 'arms' it is believed.

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[iLMAO. No, No No. The earth is stationary. As you said, the air moves with the earth spin,[/i[i Well how do i see clouds moving in all directions eh? Not just west to east, they go north to south, and east to west! That in itself proves the earth doesn't spin[/i. icon_lol.gif

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Stan you have just convinced me you are a troll. But, either way you are at this point not worth taking seriously given the depths to which such desperate retorts have sunk. This sub-puerile stuff doesn't merit any response.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Stan you have just convinced me you are a troll. But, either way you are at this point not worth taking seriously given the depths to which such desperate retorts have sunk. This sub-puerile stuff doesn't merit any response.'"

I am no Troll. I'm passionate about my beliefs. How can i take you seriously when you continue to post cartoon composites. Do me a favour. Godwins Law or what. You Abuse means you lose. Bye.

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[i[sizeHahahaha CGI Alert. What's that. I'm stuck between A Black Christmas Tree or Atari Asteroids. PMSL[/size[/i d040.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: King Street Cat "Question for you Stanley - If you jump into the air on a moving train, do you land in the same spot or slightly further back?'"

[iAs for your moving train example there's absolutely no doubt of proof that the earth is stationary. When sitting in a rapidly moving railway carriage, let a spring-gun be fired forward, or in the direction in which the train is moving. Again, let the same gun be fired, but in the opposite direction; and it will be found that the ball or other projectile will always go further in the first case than in the latter.[/i

[iIf a person leaps backwards from a horse in full gallop, he cannot jump so great a distance as he can by jumping forward. Leaping from a moving sledge, coach, or other object, backwards or forwards, the same results are experienced. Many other practical cases could be cited to show that any body projected from another body in motion, does not exhibit the same behaviour as it does when projected from a body at rest. None of the results are the same when projected in the same direction as that in which the body moves, as when projected in the opposite direction; because, in the former case, the projected body receives its momentum from the projectile force, plus that given to it by the moving body; and in the latter case, this momentum, minus that of the moving body. Hence it would be found that if the earth is moving rapidly from west to east, a cannon fired in a due easterly direction would send a ball to a greater distance than it would if fired in a due westerly direction. But the most experienced artillerymen many of whom have had great practice, both at home and abroad, in almost every latitude have declared that no difference whatever is observable. That in charging and pointing their guns, no difference in the working is ever required.[/i[

[iGunners in war ships have noticed a considerable difference in the results of their firing from guns at the bow, when sailing rapidly towards the object fired at, and when firing from guns placed at the stern while sailing away from the object These details of practical experience are utterly incompatible with the supposition of a revolving earth.[/i
[iThanks for your input in clearing this up.[/i
Quote: King Street Cat " [iOn what possible grounds can you realistically claim that this image is a fake?[/i [iYou know nothing about it nor the photographers who created the[/i composite. Your knee jerk "CGI" bawl is what you do for *E*V*E*R*Y* image that is too hard for you to address.

Quote: King Street Cat "Paul Mortfield [iPaul Mortfield is an Astronomer and computer scientist who has returned to Canada after nearly 20 years in California. While there, he was involved in creating innovative education and public outreach activities with Stanford University's Solar Observatories Group, and their involvement in NASA's SOHO Solar spacecraft. He continues collaborations with NASA scientists on a variety of projects and is a member of NASA's Education Products Review team. Paul is chair of the Solar Division of the American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO), a group that has been responsible for computing the American Relative Sunspot number for over 60 years.

Paul is a sought-after guest speaker at scientific and educational conferences, including the National Science Teachers Association Convention, astronomy clubs, star parties and the Advanced Imaging Conference. He is also a regular television commentator on astronomy, having appeared on CBS-5 in San Francisco, CNN, the Discovery Channel and most notably, as the regular host of NASA-TV's educational broadcasts on solar astronomy.

A passionate astro-photographer, Paul's photographs have appeared in magazines, calendars, and NASA educational materials. There are on display in galleries and science centres in North America and Europe. He has also created software to guide telescopes in photographing fast moving comets. To date, Paul has discovered 3 asteroids.

In his hi-tech career, Paul successfully led software development and engineering teams in large scale projects. He is an expert in automated test systems design and QA processes and operations. He has taught computer science and astronomy courses at colleges in the United States and Canada.

In his free time, Paul plays blues piano and guitar. He uses his backyard and remote observatories for research projects, astrophotography and sharing the night sky with family and friends[/i
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Quote: King Street Cat "Ferocious Aardvark Wrote As i've highlighted above a plethora of evidence of his CGI fetish. I also highlighted your comment where you admitted the shot is a composite here "You know nothing about it nor the photographers who created the composite" .Hahaha You're becoming more of a laugh post by post, Look at your contradictory tongue twisted comment in your first paragraph in your laat post. I highlighted it, please carry on amusing me.[/i icon_lol.gif

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No, I have now blocked you, because not only are you more deluded than any other person I have ever conversed with, you are now rambling, ranting, simply spouting increasingly irrelevant nonsense, and appear hysterical.

Your increasingly bizarre behaviour, coupled with the fact that you have a total block on ever even considering a single thing anybody else writes, unless it fits your obsessive lunatic drivel, means that whatever you are, there is no point in attempted comunication as you are no longer on "receive". If you ever were.

Goodbye, Stanley. Parts of it were interesting, but no longer. We shall not speak again.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, I have now blocked you, because not only are you more deluded than any other person I have ever conversed with, you are now rambling, ranting, simply spouting increasingly irrelevant nonsense, and appear hysterical.

Your increasingly bizarre behaviour, coupled with the fact that you have a total block on ever even considering a single thing anybody else writes, unless it fits your obsessive lunatic drivel, means that whatever you are, there is no point in attempted comunication as you are no longer on "receive". If you ever were.

Goodbye, Stanley. Parts of it were interesting, but no longer. We shall not speak again.'"

No worries, i'll miss your amusing tongue twisters proves how you can give it, but can't take it, Also obsessive lunatic personal digs eh Despite your immature vitriolic abuse i wish you well in your future endeavours. Adios.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, I have now blocked you, because not only are you more deluded than any other person I have ever conversed with, you are now rambling, ranting, simply spouting increasingly irrelevant nonsense, and appear hysterical.

Your increasingly bizarre behaviour, coupled with the fact that you have a total block on ever even considering a single thing anybody else writes, unless it fits your obsessive lunatic drivel, means that whatever you are, there is no point in attempted comunication as you are no longer on "receive". If you ever were.

Goodbye, Stanley. Parts of it were interesting, but no longer. We shall not speak again.'"


“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” - Socrates.

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Whitehaven
v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
       League One 2025-R10
14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
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Salford
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
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v
Crusaders
15:00
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v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
Newcastle
v
Keighley
15:00
Workington
v
Dewsbury
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R12
19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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