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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Keep digging. Your broad terms are again blown out the water. '"

You reveal a deep-rooted need to award yourself imagined 'victories'. You can't see the wood for those trees.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "If the atmosphere is spinning with the so called planet its travelling with the 1000 mph Eastward spin then as you highlighted above its travelling too at 1000 mph '"

Yes, but only from the perspective of someone watching the Earth rotate. From the perspective of the observer on the ground, the rotation is not felt (as no accelerations or decelerations are experienced) so for practical (earthbound) purposes he is stationary.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "meaning it affects all motion including westward bound flights. You can't have a global atmospheric eastward spin of 1000 mph and it not affect a westward bound flight. '"

yes you can and yes you do. To fly somewhere else, the plane only needs to fly at a speed differential to the air mass. that speed would be the same speed regardless of the rotation speed of the globe.
On a still day, a hot air balloon will rise straight up. If it could stay up for 24 hours, it would from the perspective of space have completed one full "orbit" along a circle of the globe. From the perspective of someone on the ground, or in the balloon, they would be in the same place on Earth when they landed as they had been when they floated up.

So, the global spin would have had no effect, at all, on the balloon. Because the earth below and the atmosphere in which the balloon is suspended, at that point, are spinning at an equal speed.

If there is a slight wind in any direction, then the balloon will travel relative to the ground at the speed of that wind in that direction. if the wind is 20 mph the balloon will have an airspeed of zero 9as it is not moving againstthe air flow but keeping station with it0 and wil have a groundspeed of 20 mph.

From the point of takeoff, ONLY the air flow will affect the speed of the balloon relative to the ground.

Unless you have never watched a hot air balloon, you have witnessedall this for yourself many times.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "The reason flight times are identical both ways is because the Earth is stationary rlExplained thoroughly Hererl You're making a fool of yourself. '"

One of us is, but it's not me. Flight times aren't identical, they vary depending on prevailing winds. Just one instance of the stupidity of your "identical" suggestion is flight times from UK to USA, which can be and are often considerably speeded up by the Jet Stream. For flights to have identical times, there would have to be no jet stream. Don't you believe in the Jet Stream either Stan?

Du you accept the Coriolis effect? If not, why do storms rotate one direction in the northern hemisphere, and the opposite in the southern hemisphere? None of this would happen but for the Earth's spin.

Quote: FLAT STANLEY "You can't have it both ways to suit your argument. Yeah the Earths 1000 mph eastward spin doesn't count on earth. Jargon. icon_lol.gif

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[img:1xp9uk91]https://ytimg.googleusercontent.com/vi/2BHVr3E9ZO8/mqdefault.jpg[/img:1xp9uk91] [b:1xp9uk91][i:1xp9uk91]The Earth is not a Globe. Trust Your God Given Senses.If the Sun is 93.000.000 miles away, why do i see clouds behind the Sun.?. Occam's Razor = it Isn't 93.000.000 miles away. [url=https://youtu.be/IYYj_h_i5wo:1xp9uk91]Biggest Lie Ever Told Documentary[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/U55UDzNCSAE:1xp9uk91]Flat Earth Intro[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/J6CPrGHpmMs:1xp9uk91]Flat Earth Clues.[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/aJGOQEyeHbE:1xp9uk91]The Bible And The Flat Earth.[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/zqUd2W2RqCw:1xp9uk91]Curvature[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/h9mQl_oEoNk:1xp9uk91]Pilots POV 1[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/SgM1XG0mgbE:1xp9uk91]Pilots POV 2[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/owQ8pSnhfyE:1xp9uk91]Pilots POV 3[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/M_j2XkSRIdc?t=50:1xp9uk91]Bedford Level[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/HAC24aV8OyQ:1xp9uk91]Winter Hill[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/h5i_iDyUTCg:1xp9uk91]200 Proofs[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/HL6v8nzFiUk:1xp9uk91]NWO And Prophecy[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/_HaCEMy28u4:1xp9uk91]Bullshit ISS By Physics Engineer[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/7UuW9CqhBdE:1xp9uk91]Darren Nesbit New Horizons.[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/-9pLoDo94po:1xp9uk91]Sunsets Explained[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/vHNvUgPRw98:1xp9uk91]More Sunset Proof[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/XugZ9wGnk9M:1xp9uk91]Sunset Timezones[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/npxAxglUnKI:1xp9uk91]More Proofs[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://youtu.be/l7BhcufC-5Y?t=644:1xp9uk91]317.000 feet Up No Curvature[/url:1xp9uk91] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3xg-0Qr82k:1xp9uk91]Dome/Firmament[/url:1xp9uk91][/i:1xp9uk91][/b:1xp9uk91]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74593.jpg



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "[i As the atmosphere is rotating at the same speed as the ground surface[/i '"

[iLMAO. No, No No. The earth is stationary. As you said, the air moves with the earth spin,[/i[i Well how do i see clouds moving in all directions eh? Not just west to east, they go north to south, and east to west! That in itself proves the earth doesn't spin[/i. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[iLMAO. No, No No. The earth is stationary. As you said, the air moves with the earth spin,[/i[i Well how do i see clouds moving in all directions eh? Not just west to east, they go north to south, and east to west! That in itself proves the earth doesn't spin[/i.
Clouds are in Earth's atmosphere and will move relative to the ground, along with anything else in the air, including planes. In terms of their movement, nothing to do with the Earth spinning, just weather systems (which you may want to read up on).

The stars move across the nights sky as the Earth is spinning innit.

Our Solar System orbits the centre of the Milky Way, but so do all the rest, and the position of our Solar System and the stars around us (which is what we can see) relative to each other, are fairly fixed. I say fairly as over millions of years the positioning will change slightly, but not noticeable in our lifetimes, certainly not 'wandering' as you're imagining.

The whole galaxy is one huge spiral, of which we're towards the ends of one of the 'arms' it is believed.

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[iLMAO. No, No No. The earth is stationary. As you said, the air moves with the earth spin,[/i[i Well how do i see clouds moving in all directions eh? Not just west to east, they go north to south, and east to west! That in itself proves the earth doesn't spin[/i. icon_lol.gif

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Stan you have just convinced me you are a troll. But, either way you are at this point not worth taking seriously given the depths to which such desperate retorts have sunk. This sub-puerile stuff doesn't merit any response.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Stan you have just convinced me you are a troll. But, either way you are at this point not worth taking seriously given the depths to which such desperate retorts have sunk. This sub-puerile stuff doesn't merit any response.'"

I am no Troll. I'm passionate about my beliefs. How can i take you seriously when you continue to post cartoon composites. Do me a favour. Godwins Law or what. You Abuse means you lose. Bye.

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "[i[sizeHahahaha CGI Alert. What's that. I'm stuck between A Black Christmas Tree or Atari Asteroids. PMSL[/size[/i d040.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: King Street Cat "Question for you Stanley - If you jump into the air on a moving train, do you land in the same spot or slightly further back?'"

[iAs for your moving train example there's absolutely no doubt of proof that the earth is stationary. When sitting in a rapidly moving railway carriage, let a spring-gun be fired forward, or in the direction in which the train is moving. Again, let the same gun be fired, but in the opposite direction; and it will be found that the ball or other projectile will always go further in the first case than in the latter.[/i

[iIf a person leaps backwards from a horse in full gallop, he cannot jump so great a distance as he can by jumping forward. Leaping from a moving sledge, coach, or other object, backwards or forwards, the same results are experienced. Many other practical cases could be cited to show that any body projected from another body in motion, does not exhibit the same behaviour as it does when projected from a body at rest. None of the results are the same when projected in the same direction as that in which the body moves, as when projected in the opposite direction; because, in the former case, the projected body receives its momentum from the projectile force, plus that given to it by the moving body; and in the latter case, this momentum, minus that of the moving body. Hence it would be found that if the earth is moving rapidly from west to east, a cannon fired in a due easterly direction would send a ball to a greater distance than it would if fired in a due westerly direction. But the most experienced artillerymen many of whom have had great practice, both at home and abroad, in almost every latitude have declared that no difference whatever is observable. That in charging and pointing their guns, no difference in the working is ever required.[/i[

[iGunners in war ships have noticed a considerable difference in the results of their firing from guns at the bow, when sailing rapidly towards the object fired at, and when firing from guns placed at the stern while sailing away from the object These details of practical experience are utterly incompatible with the supposition of a revolving earth.[/i
[iThanks for your input in clearing this up.[/i
Quote: King Street Cat " [iOn what possible grounds can you realistically claim that this image is a fake?[/i [iYou know nothing about it nor the photographers who created the[/i composite. Your knee jerk "CGI" bawl is what you do for *E*V*E*R*Y* image that is too hard for you to address.

Quote: King Street Cat "Paul Mortfield [iPaul Mortfield is an Astronomer and computer scientist who has returned to Canada after nearly 20 years in California. While there, he was involved in creating innovative education and public outreach activities with Stanford University's Solar Observatories Group, and their involvement in NASA's SOHO Solar spacecraft. He continues collaborations with NASA scientists on a variety of projects and is a member of NASA's Education Products Review team. Paul is chair of the Solar Division of the American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO), a group that has been responsible for computing the American Relative Sunspot number for over 60 years.

Paul is a sought-after guest speaker at scientific and educational conferences, including the National Science Teachers Association Convention, astronomy clubs, star parties and the Advanced Imaging Conference. He is also a regular television commentator on astronomy, having appeared on CBS-5 in San Francisco, CNN, the Discovery Channel and most notably, as the regular host of NASA-TV's educational broadcasts on solar astronomy.

A passionate astro-photographer, Paul's photographs have appeared in magazines, calendars, and NASA educational materials. There are on display in galleries and science centres in North America and Europe. He has also created software to guide telescopes in photographing fast moving comets. To date, Paul has discovered 3 asteroids.

In his hi-tech career, Paul successfully led software development and engineering teams in large scale projects. He is an expert in automated test systems design and QA processes and operations. He has taught computer science and astronomy courses at colleges in the United States and Canada.

In his free time, Paul plays blues piano and guitar. He uses his backyard and remote observatories for research projects, astrophotography and sharing the night sky with family and friends[/i
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Quote: King Street Cat "Ferocious Aardvark Wrote As i've highlighted above a plethora of evidence of his CGI fetish. I also highlighted your comment where you admitted the shot is a composite here "You know nothing about it nor the photographers who created the composite" .Hahaha You're becoming more of a laugh post by post, Look at your contradictory tongue twisted comment in your first paragraph in your laat post. I highlighted it, please carry on amusing me.[/i icon_lol.gif

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No, I have now blocked you, because not only are you more deluded than any other person I have ever conversed with, you are now rambling, ranting, simply spouting increasingly irrelevant nonsense, and appear hysterical.

Your increasingly bizarre behaviour, coupled with the fact that you have a total block on ever even considering a single thing anybody else writes, unless it fits your obsessive lunatic drivel, means that whatever you are, there is no point in attempted comunication as you are no longer on "receive". If you ever were.

Goodbye, Stanley. Parts of it were interesting, but no longer. We shall not speak again.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, I have now blocked you, because not only are you more deluded than any other person I have ever conversed with, you are now rambling, ranting, simply spouting increasingly irrelevant nonsense, and appear hysterical.

Your increasingly bizarre behaviour, coupled with the fact that you have a total block on ever even considering a single thing anybody else writes, unless it fits your obsessive lunatic drivel, means that whatever you are, there is no point in attempted comunication as you are no longer on "receive". If you ever were.

Goodbye, Stanley. Parts of it were interesting, but no longer. We shall not speak again.'"

No worries, i'll miss your amusing tongue twisters proves how you can give it, but can't take it, Also obsessive lunatic personal digs eh Despite your immature vitriolic abuse i wish you well in your future endeavours. Adios.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, I have now blocked you, because not only are you more deluded than any other person I have ever conversed with, you are now rambling, ranting, simply spouting increasingly irrelevant nonsense, and appear hysterical.

Your increasingly bizarre behaviour, coupled with the fact that you have a total block on ever even considering a single thing anybody else writes, unless it fits your obsessive lunatic drivel, means that whatever you are, there is no point in attempted comunication as you are no longer on "receive". If you ever were.

Goodbye, Stanley. Parts of it were interesting, but no longer. We shall not speak again.'"


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