Before any one says anything, this is NOT a dig !

How have you come from a rumour to the fixtures list in a fortnight ?

I am amazed !!!!

Do you think the mov of the cru to Wrexham has been all arranged in a few weeks? I'd imagine as soon as it was announced they were moving to Newport this idea sprang up

"We're from the valleys where the grass grows green
The loyalist fans you've ever seen
We don't tell lies and we don't tell tales
We are the Celts from South Wales".

exactly

If you believe some of the ( welsh) posters on this site, you would think that everyone in South Wales has thrown the towel in with The Crusaders' move to Wrexham. Not true.

Only last week one of the Crusaders Under age sides had nearly 70 boys at an open trial.

RL is alive and kicking in South Wales with more sides - Merthyr and Monmouth due to join the Welsh Summer Conference.

This is good news, I hope the game grows and grows

Yeah Port, but whether you like it or not, Sh1tloads HAVE binned it. I came close myself.

Put it this way, i know personally that loads of players HAVE binned it and returned to the other code. The new clubs were arranged before the betrayal by the Crusaders management. So let's take off the rose tinted glasses and cut the spin. Turner and Samuel's phukked off now. No need for any more lies.

It remains to see if these new clubs'll survive. I hope they do! asnd I hope they all decide to stay in SOUTH Wales or if they are really talented go to a PROPER SL club before joining the fanless Crusaders.

The Gogs want our club, let them develop and support it THEMSELVES.

Let SOUTH Wales talent (if it survives the great betrayal) stay at the South Wales SILURIANS.

South Wales name for people from the north I take it ?

The Welsh name for 'North' is 'GOGLEDD' hence Gogs. Hope this helps our English viewers.

Funnily enough you don't here Gogs call southerners 'DE/DEAU' lacks a certain something

And there endeth this weeks Welsh lesson

Thanks for that

The Crusaders have LOST more support in South Wales than they'll gain in Wrexham.

It will be a day out for the away fans and once that novelty has worn off the same problems will appear as they did down in Bridgend.

Long live the South Wales RL - hopefully called the Phoenix!

Don't listen to Grendel...........

The new clubs set up at local level will run through the summer and want to play RL not watch the Crusaders

As far as loads of players returning to the other code is concerned, thats a bit of an overstatement as we only had 20 odd players in the Crusaders reserves anyway. Those who want to continue playing RL will now be staying with the new South Wales club.

I have also heard that quite a few new players have their names down for the South Wales' trial particulary as "Bridgend" aren't running things anymore .

No one from the U18 side has quit because The Crusaders are now U' Wrexham

And as far as The betrayal by the Crusaders management is concerned , the club had two choices - Fold or move up North .

Thats economy reality brought on by the Credit Crunch which has effected thousands of British workers' jobs never mind where the Crsuaders play

Oh don't talk s h i t Port!

The situation has changed and lots of lads interested in league last season have now binned it. I never said it was just Crusaders reserves binning the game - because lots haven't. But of over 3000 registered league players in Wales, you can knock 500 off that for starters. some of the new schools playing it have already jacked.

I will be FIRMLY supporting the Scorps (and ONLY the Scorps) in pro/semipro league.

As far as the Crusaders goes, it had SEVERAL choices. There was a firm consortium bid from Bridgend, for the club but not the debts. It's not economic reality, it is the personal incompetence of Leighton Samuel and Mike Turner.

Accept reality you fool and stop trying to paint things the way you prefer.

Oh and Port you lying little t u r d , "Bridgend" never EVER ran the Crusaders. It was Samuel and Turner. The guys trying out for the Scorps are not trying out because "Bridgend" is not running them.

They are trying out because they can't try out for the Crusaders because the Crusaders f***ed off to the wastelands.

I will stand firmy behind the Scorps with honesty and realism. You can continue to sit firmly up turner's lying a r s e.

Grendel me old chum I assume when the league registration stats come out and there are more than 2500 from wales you'll make a long and grovelling apology? If there are less than 2500 as you suggest I'll buy you a pint at a scorps game